"You're not billable enough."

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  1. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Naw, I just support all of the projects my division is working on. Stupid fucking bean-counters. :mad:
     
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    you your job doesn't *MAKE* money, you're bound to be in trouble at some point.......even if your job facilitates other people making money.
     
  3. BlazinBlazer Guy

    BlazinBlazer Guy Witness to The De-Evolution of Mankind.

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    :werd: People who don't understand that piss me off, but it's the sad reality.
     
  4. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Oh no, everyone from my boss all the way up to the CFO says they understand the value of the work I do, but they've already drank the Kool-Aid on the latest accounting fad (i.e. reducing overhead to nothing because they can), so they're going to continue pretending like my work is actually worthless fluff for the sake of an exercise that they all openly admit doesn't accurately reflect reality.
     
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    so write up an email, powerpoint slide, or even hand write a memo and circulate it. prove your worth.

    we had to justify a training dept because we were losing money. it was easy.......we did it by showing that sales was giving away training (so we were losing money) but they were GAINING sales because of it. so we were losing $10k/month, but they were selling an extra $100k/month they wouldn't have sold if they didn't give away training. we proved the net effect of cutting training was to LOSE $90k/month. people shut up very quickly and started looking at other places to cut.
     
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    You are soooooooooo fucked.

    Start working on that resume.
     
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    So this means you're about to be canned? :dunno:
     
  8. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Shit if I know. Two division directors, several project managers, and everyone in IT at the main office has my back, but corporations are not democracies.

    Last time I went looking for another job, I had an offer within 3 weeks, so I'm not panicking. Mostly it's fucking annoying that everyone involved could openly admit the numbers don't tell the entire story, but they're going to pretend they do anyway. I mean really. :squint:
     
  9. GOGZILLA

    GOGZILLA Double-Uranium Member

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    Kinda says something about yourself that you're still willing to work there
     
  10. 5Gen_Prelude

    5Gen_Prelude There might not be an "I" in the word "Team", but

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    "I'm sorry - I'm not sure I undertand the statement. For example, which customers are you billing your time to in order to come up with the statement that I'm not billable enough?"
     
  11. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    You know perfectly well the rules are different for management. ;)
     
  12. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    This just started happening in the past month or so.

    The last time I got sick of their bullshit, in early 2008, I sent out resumes and had a job offer in 3 weeks. I stayed because they matched the offer and gave me my choice of projects. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to do the same this time. Mostly I don't want to fuck over my coworkers by being the only guy with my kind of expertise and bailing out on them -- makes it harder for them to keep their jobs in turn, when the infrastructure they use to do work starts falling apart and they don't know how to put it back together.
     
  13. CodeX

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    Sucks what is happening but you could look at this another way...

    Perhaps they are trying to keep the company afloat to prevent having to tell hundreds of mothers and fathers that they are losing their jobs and they are going to do so by affecting as few people as possible... sucks you have to be one of them
     
  14. Peyomp

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    In god we trust. Everyone else: bring data.

    The real problem here is that you've chosen to stay in a position where you don't offer profound, obvious value to the bean counters. IT Support is the Janitorial Science of IT - not that it SHOULD be - a good IT guy is worth his weight in gold... but it is.
     
  15. Peyomp

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    Yeah, coworkers have no reasonable expectation for you to stay when you're not happy, and if they do they are not your friends. Look for better opportunities. Look for more money, more challenging work, more responsibility. You don't have to take it, but in your situation you sure as shit better look.
     
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    we actually drew a graph to show what would happen to sales. we figured they'd be flat for a while because they'd continue to give away training, but then as the product changed, the graph dropped, as time passed, the graph dropped. management kind of thought we were just trying to justify ourselves and that we were being a little self-important, and then Sales piped up and said we were exactly right.........the more the product changed and the more time passed, the less value free training would be, so they'd begin to lose more and more sales. i'm happy to say much of this was my idea, and it worked.
     
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    Yeah, you win in meetings when you have 2+ obvious charts that demonstrate what you're saying. People don't listen to one another, but they listen to charts.
     
  18. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    That's a compelling scenario, but it's not the case here. My division is still making money hand over fist, and the other divisions which are busy litigating contracts we won a year ago but the incumbents are contesting are still keeping-on just fine.

    I hear what you're saying about the status of IT employees, Peyomp, which is why I only kept doing that kind of work because it was so bloody easy. I had the rare opportunity to be up to my neck in code today and I felt more awake at work than I have in months.
     
  19. Peyomp

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    My work is fucking crazy. Some days I just wanna be an IT guy. I used to wanna be a farmer. Don't be tricked, farming sucks. I tried it.
     
  20. CodeX

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    :bowdown:

    For the first time ever today I wrote some multi-threaded code, it was exhilarating, especially considering I am usually working on code that runs completely absent of any type of sophisticated operating system.

    Creating delegates to ensure "thread safety" is a bitch though, lol.
     
  21. GOGZILLA

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    stop it you're turning me on
     
  22. Peyomp

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    Yeah man, threads are so hard to do right that they are a dead end for parallel processing. You simply can't get very far down that path.
     
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    Fase Your Face, In A Pickle Jar.

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    What exactly is it you do here?
     
  25. thebox

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    thats pretty much where i'm at

    :hs:
     

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