GUN WWB 147gr 9mm hollow points

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  1. Paul Revere

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    I bought some without realizing it at walmart today, and havent found much information online. i read in a few places people say its fine for defense ammo, but not as good as something along the line of Gold Dots

    Anyone have any experience?

    pic of what i got:

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    1/7000 is good enough for me. im gonna run 4 mags through my gun completely cold to see how they shoot.
     
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    :dunno: I'll let you know how they feed.
     
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    I've been shot with them but really found the wound to be less painful than other hollow points.

    Seriously they're fine. Its not the most modern winchester design, the ranger is a better hollow point, but they're not bad either.
     
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    I shoot and carry for work the Winchester Ranger 147gr.

    Anyone else have any experience with this ammo?
     
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    In testing I've done, this round performed decently. Held more mass than hydrashok, with more penetration, but not as much penetration or expansion as the more popular "bigger name" defense rounds (Ranger SXT, DPX, Golden Saber, and one other I can't remember right now)
     
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    If it's not the Ranger SXT, it's just another JHP. lol it's not a bad round though.
     
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    Tap - Rack - Bang. :eek3:
     
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    ... so.... tap rack bang?
     
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    fwiw, the sxt is not the king of the ranger lineup, the ranger t is winchesters best the sxt is #2
     
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    how do 124gr Speer Gold Dots hold up to the winchester self defense line?
     
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    I would say thats even dependent on your needs. If you're not planning to shoot through autoglass, the regular ranger t's offer better ballistics. If you're a cop...perhaps, for most of us probably not.

    If it has a big name stamped on it, the biggest difference is going to be which you can shoot more accurately. Try the two out and see which you get better faster groups with, thats the superior round. Odds are you'll feel a difference between a standard pressure heavier rounds and the +P round and like one more than the other.
     
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    :werd: thats the impression i was getting
     
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    The T series is the bullet itself, the Ranger SXT is the name they are sold under in a loaded cartridge :wavey: (if it doesn't say ranger it's not the t-series)
     
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    What? So can you just buy a T-series bullet and load your own? :dunno:
     
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    Yes. But good luck finding them for sale :mamoru: it's hard enough to find the fucking loaded cartridge. (I carry the 127G +p+ because I carry a short barrel and need the velocity boost)
     
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    http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/handguns/press-releases/1269374/

    Maybe not, but we can use guess as to the probability. I won't sacrifice performance in clothed people for performance through auto glass based on probability. I think the odds of having to shoot through your own windshield are even smaller than having to shoot through someone else's. It might cost me one day but so might not wearing asbestos undies.
     
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    God I hate getting into pissing matches, but how does that dispute what I said?

    And here:

    Please note the SXT AND the RA9TA on the box. No I'm not resizing, want to make sure you can read it.

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    I got some since my shop is out of Ranger 9 (he's only got .40) and I had the same problem. I loaded upa mag and when I racked the slide it was fine a bunch of times...than the one time it just shoved into the ramp and wouldn't feed.... needless to say I wasn't thrilled. I went to the range and loaded in a mag with them and they worked fine and were sickly accurate too though.
     
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    So... is there a reason you were needlessly chambering rounds over and over? Bullet set back is real ya know....
     
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    To me “The engineering behind the enhanced Ranger T Series make it the best law enforcement load we have ever produced,” says that winchester themselves calls the ranger t load, the ranger t load, not ranger sxt. When you throw sxt in you run the chances of getting the plain jane sxt rounds from dealers I think.

    Anyway my advice would be order your winchester defensive rounds by model number just to be sure. ra9t for me please.
     
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    The loaded cartridges are sold as Winchester Ranger SXT. The Bullets are the T-Series

    /discussion.
     
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    I still have no idea how you get that from statements like "The enhanced Ranger T Series handgun ammunition (note: not the ranger sxt series)—for law enforcement only—comes from the same design as the original Supreme Expansion Technology (SXT) bullet, but it’s better.

    Like the original SXT bullet, the enhanced T Series has a hollow point nose that expands into a six petal configuration."

    But I'll agree to the 2nd half :big grin:
     
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    Please, go back and look at the picture I posted. I get that from the fact that, IT'S ON THE FUCKING BOX. :wavey:
     

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