WTF v. 2015 camaro ss might be a v6

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  1. victimizati0n

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    Gas is probably not going to be cheap by then, so they're trying to get away from V8s. I've even heard rumors that the C7 won't be a V8 :ugh2:

    Sadly I think we're all going to have to get used to the idea of smaller engines that use forced induction and other technologies to produce bigger power. Sucks, but that's what vintage cars are for; I sure as hell won't be getting rid of any of my V8-milled vehicles any time soon -- just keep rebuilding them and restoring the bodies/chassis as needed.

    Unfortunately though if they bastardize it too much, it won't be a Camaro anymore. Can't go too much smaller without destroying the whole essence of the car (considering the 2010's dimensions are very similar to the '69 it was based on, and none of the other generations were much if any smaller either.)
     
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    Not likely at all in a niche car like the Camaro.

    That and FI engines use nearly as much fuel as a lazy V8 and work harder doing the same thing.
     
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    The same shit has been said about the Corvette through every modern iteration.
     
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    Do you believe everything you read?
     
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    this is very true, very very true.,

    Tell me, why is it that 'official' fuel consumption figures always favor the turbo 6's? compared to the v8's?

    Whenever you look at ANY comparo test between the turbo falcon and v8 holdens that have any sort of track work, or 'enthusiest driving' the turbo's use as much, if not more fuel.

    They also have a better torque curve so its justified by they are far from the economical option.
     
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    did you notice my thread title said might in it?

    that means that it may or may not be true.
     
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    I was at a Mitsu dealer today. Evo MR is rated at 22mpg highway. My LS3 returns over 25 regularly.

    A member of AZ Crew had an STi for awhile, he averaged 16mpg. My GTO averaged 18-19mpg.
     
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    I think a lot of it has to do with the specific testing methods employed to produce the "official" numbers. Under everyday light-throttle driving where not much boost is being produced, FI V6 engines do have the potential to be more efficient than a traditional NA V8.

    The minute you start putting real world drivers in them (specifically, the type of drivers who would purchase a performance-oriented vehicle) those figures go right out the window. In the "real world" a NA V8 will > a FI V6 every day of the week.

    I blame CAFE.
     
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    rebirth of the real RS anyone?
     
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    they should have 4 models:

    ss - highest power v8
    z28 - regular v8
    rs - supercharged v6
    base - regular v6

    none of this faggitory 2ss or 2rsss3ss stuff
     
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    Hey I can do this...

    Smoking is not shown in any way to increase the chances of getting cancer.
     
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    My X Averaged Y, clearly the superior engine design.
     
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    Your first post is challenging tri? Moron.
    He's right, though. The EVO and STi get notoriously bad mileage, and the new SHO and blown Lincoln models are proof positive that turbo does not equal great mileage. The Lincoln SUVs/CUVs in particular only get marginally better mileage than NA V8 Fords and Lincolns.

    If you want a particular mileage, a turbo will deliver it in a smaller, more efficient package. If power is your goal a turbo car will only get marginally better mileage for any given poweer level.
     
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    That is very true, and as modern turbo engines don't turn up the injectors until there is positive boost these smaller turbo engines can compete in this regard
     
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    surely if the base v6 is 300hp the supercharged v6 will have to be 350-380.

    I dont really see the need for the super 6 in the line up.
     
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    really there should only be 2 models a v8 and a 6 then let your options package do the tweaking for suspension variations, power output, big wheels ext. why make 3-4 models of the same car. furthermore, if the domestic market did move away from v8's in favour of fi 4 cyl or 6 cyl engines they need to distance it from there big muscle big dispacment big power image. otherwise you end up with something like the fox body stang. it takes everything your looking for from the car away from it.
     
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    I think they should have a base V6 car, a V8 RS/SS and a supercharged V8 Z28.
     
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    I agree somewhat with what you're saying, but in the case of the Fox bodies, that car was what the market called for. And Ford made a lot of money. Today's market is calling for cars that return better mileage. Whether or not turbo cars are the way to go for that is another matter entirely.

    I do agree though that they shouldn't "disgrace" the image of the muscle car with small, forced induction engines. Rather, they should release something new.
     
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    I'm not "challenging" the poster as a person, I'm "challenging" what he posted.
     
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    the only reason i put the supercharged v6 in there was because they are talking about it being in the ss :o
     
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    there will always be a v8 option with the camaro.
     
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    So you know of comparable AWD pushrod v8 cars in the same power range getting better MPG? I'm not saying its not true, but saying "I got this, and this normally gets this, what I have is clearly better" is stupid. Speaking for my own driving habits, its much easier to cruise around with a torquey v8 than it is in a high strung turbo 4.

    Side note: There's far more :wackit: to the STi engine than being small displacement, high power. For one, its dynamically balanced, something a v8 never will be.

    Depends on the design of the engine. I've seen turbo B series motors get 40MPG when the boost is cut, but with the turn of a knob and a few fuel adjustments and it would push out 300whp.
     
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    internally balanced?

    subaru boxer engines sound like they run on gravel.
     

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