GUN Wow I fucking love idiots

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  1. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Cliffs: Guy gets pulled over in WA, doesnt have CWP, cop sees NRA sticker, asks if he has any guns, guy says yes, gets searched finds a handgun, gets arrested friend think he didnt have probable cause

    Thats like if a cop ask if you have any drugs in your car and you say yes and than not expecting to get searched :rofl:
     
  2. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Its illegal in WA to have a gun in your car without a CWP
     
  3. Good point. Unless the guy admitted to it being loaded there wasn't any law being broken.
     
  4. You can have a gun, it just can't be loaded.
     
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    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    Sticker is not PC but the idiot fried himself when he admitted to having it.
     
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    joed1228 New Member

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    That cop would of searched the car anyhow. If he made the effort to ask he just wanted to see if the driver was going to lie or not.

    Why does he have an NRA sticker on his car if he's driving around with a loaded gun when he knows he isnt supposed to, does his like the attention from the cops?
     
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    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    He couldn't search if the guy didn't admit to it.
     
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    P-chan New Member

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    That's right - however, the cop doesn't need probable cause to ask a question. The cop can ask whatever he wants to ask - the problem is, if the cop ordered him out of the car and searched without consent of the driver. If the driver admitted the gun was loaded (it certainly sounds like he did) and the driver doesn't have a CWP, then the driver admitted to a crime and the cop can do whatever the hell he wants. :dunno:
     
  9. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Ive had cops ask if they can search my car late at night, and I just say no and its usually the end of the conversation. As one cop put it to me for every smart person that says no theirs 9 idiots that will say yes
     
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    ChipOnShoulder New Member

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    As long as the a loaded magazine isn't in the pistol or rifle it aint loaded.

    CPLs are handed out like candy in this state though. 50 bucks, 1 month wait, you're good for 5 years.
     
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    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    I think what he meant is that obviously it means loaded because otherwise you couldn't transport the firearm at all without a cwp.
     
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    P-chan New Member

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    Not if the driver admitted to illegally transporting a firearm first. :dunno:
     
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    P-chan New Member

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    I'm guessing he probably didn't - it probably went like this :

    "I saw your NRA sticker, do you have a firearm in the car?"

    "Yes, I do"

    "Is it loaded?"

    "Yes...."

    "Out of the car, son...."

    :rofl:
     
  14. spankaveli

    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    Probably was

    NRA sticker blah, do you have a gun?

    Yes

    Can I look around in your vehicle?

    Yes
     
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    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    I never understood why if you had drugs/guns/dead thai hookers in your car, that you would EVER consent for a cop to search you. At that point, what do you possibly have to lose by saying no?



    On the flip side, it always made me laugh when cops tell you "just go ahead an tell me, it will be easier for you". I've never understood how admitting guilt to a police officer would ever make my life "easier".
     
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    GlassUser send an email not a pm OT Supporter

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    What should have happened.
     
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    Bobula Fairly Useless

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    In CA it is. CA LEO's have the right to inspect firearms to ensure it's not loaded, and they'll retrive it for you, hence vehicle search.
     
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    Try saying "I don't recall" to a cop when they ask you if you have a gun in the car :rofl:

    Let me know how that works out for you.
     
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    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    So it's okay for cops to go around searching random people's homes and vehicles to ensure they're not breaking the law?
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    Breaking the law doesn't count if that law is unconstitutional.

    Has there been any federal cases testing whether states can prohibit people from have a loaded gun in the car?
     
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    They say it every other time in cops- "just make it easy on yourself" or "help me help you" or some other implication of leniency
    and i'm sure the cops stick to their word every time
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    But it would still be in place if unchallenged. Being found constitutional has nothing to do with being unconstitutional.
     
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    My bet is that he consented to the search. I couldn't tell you how many of my friends acted like they were searched illegally when busted for weed/underage drinking, but when I press them on it, they always admit they consented to a search, with excuses like "I was screwed, they knew I was up to something, it wouldn't have mattered if i consented or not!"

    People don't seem to realize how huge the difference is between a police request and a police order. I always wonder how much the arrest rate would drop if everyone knew that when a cop asks to search your house/car/person, that you can simply respond with "I'd rather that you didn't, sir."
     
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    jehan60188 New Member

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    the cops response would be "why not? hiding something?"
    you should just say "no"
    no need to be anything but civil
     

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