Would you say these statements are true?

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  1. Falconer

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    "You can only get a chick who cannot do any better than you"

    And for girls:

    "You can only get a guy who cannot do any better than you"

    Discuss.
     
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    you can keep a girl as your girlfriend for five years who can't do better than you, which means she's "kept" you for five years. or the other way around.

    based on your assumptions, one of these statements has to be false, on one side if not the other, since the notion that neither of you can do "better" than the other is a bit outlandish.

    btw, what does "get" mean? 6 months of sex? love? 1 night? a crush
     
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    Unless both the guy and girl are evenly matched (both 7s or whatever).

    It means whatever context you want to take it in, except for "a crush" because that is unrequited. It applies to all timeframes.
     
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    I would say not true, but then it really depends on what better means and what one person likes the other person for.
     
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    Yuppy Have a seat right there....

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    no. im dating a girl far cuter than me... and i could do wayyyyy better than her
     
  6. iwishyouwerebeer

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    I have to assume this is based on physical appearance? If so, my bf could do better than me and I could do better than him as well. So :dunno: I don't fit that statement.
     
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    I would like to start with how ridiculous the "better than you" part is. You think way too black and white. 11ty aspects might make up your 'worth' and everyone is going to do better w/ certain things (maybe looks, or maturity, or being well spoken) than others.
    then, wtf does "get" mean?
    After that, no, the statements are still false. People can be persuaded to do all sorts of things, people like to do things that are bad for them, people stick to what they're used to even if its maladaptive.
     
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    Im going to take "better than you" in the overall relationship sense instead of looks (since looks is more relative). In that case, with all the negatives in those statements, Im going to say that is true for now...

    I think if you have any confidence you have to agree with the statement. Also, if you disagree, than you feel you could be doing more to be better, and then why wouldn't you?

    Thats an amazingly well put together question, for how basic it is :o
     
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    you don't know if they can do better than you until they try (or run into some luck). so i would say these statements are not true.
     
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    why would people break up with each other if they couldn't do better than their partner? that means that the partner was getting someone that COULD have done better.

    so almost by definition, what you're saying is completely false.
     
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    I have Ex's who have boyfriends that I admit are way better than me.
     
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    I view best in terms of best for me right now. In that sense I am always with the best I can get, so I guess the statments would be true if you look at it that way.
     
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    Do you think all relationships are made up of people "settling" because they don't think they can do any better?
     
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    no one is perfect

    so i say no

    not everyone settles.
    and not everything is physical
     
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    I'll just point out that people settling bc they can't do any better is the negative rhetoric, and people being together because they are the best for each other they could ever find is the positive rhetoric, and they mean the same exact thing when you take them apart.
     
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    Interpersonal relationships are all about perception and feelings, not semantics.

    If a guy feels like he's settling because he can't do better, the situation is far different than a guy who feels like he's with the best girl for him.
     
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    srsly
     
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    People don't break up if they can't do better.

    Who dumps their bf/gf for a downgrade?
     
  19. Falconer

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    btw I never said this had anything to do with looks.
     
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    I agree, but I think the word choice, in your internal monologue, is the difference between a depressive male and a healthy male.
     
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    So why did you say that the two statements are effectively the same?
     
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    They mean the same thing denotationally. The only difference is that one has a negative spin and the other has a positive spin. As you pointed out, that is a big difference, since perception is often more important than reality - even if in reality there's no actual concrete difference between the two ideas.

    I just find it interesting that two ways of putting the same thing have such a different impact.
     
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    No. But even if it was a question we should argue about, if you're with someone, then you're with the person.

    There is no better or worse, because it's just the reality of the present moment.

    (S)he was a different person the day before and the relationship before, as she will be the day and relationship after. To say that a person can do "better" or "worse" depends on too many factors even if we could have the discussion at all -- which I don't think we can.

    Who's the judge? And why does that person have the ability to judge? And better relative to who? And what could be changed (says the unknown judge)? And by how much? Relative to what?

    Once we enter the world of "better", even JUST regarding looks, it becomes so subjective.
     
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    i think you misunderstood me.

    partner A dumps partner B because A thinks they can do better.
    however, prior to the break up, B was with A, even though A could do better than B.
     

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