GUN WMD school me on ammo v.7.62x54r

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  1. 4thgenceli

    4thgenceli Active Member

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    Is there a difference between 54 and the 54r? Google gives mixed answers (corrosive vs non-corrosive, hotter round, different primers).

    Just picked up a Mosin M44 for -$75 and it came with what appears to be wolf 7.62x54r rounds

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    I snagged some Winchesters as well that are brass cased from the shop on the way home. Going to keep the steel cases as well to reload em eventually (read after I have a shop).
     
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    r denotes rim. Some people get lazy and just say 7.62x54 but I don't think there's a cartridge with that spec that's not rimmed.
     
  3. Cannondale

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    That's Czech Silver Tip ammunition, it's corrosive for sure.
     
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    4thgenceli Active Member

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    Joy... :-\

    < loads up range bag with Windex
     
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    But awesome. I love Czech silver tip. Can't find it around here anymore. Shoots a hefty flame out of an m44
     
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    Cannondale OT Supporter

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    It's corossive, but it is great ammunition.
     
  7. 4thgenceli

    4thgenceli Active Member

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    I have ~60 rounds of it right now. I'll just carry some windex to the range to spray it down before I leave. No biggy, just gotta make sure I clean it before i leave (I usually head home and then strip * clean).
     
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    You spray *what* down with windex?
     
  9. BLH

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    The bore.
     
  10. 4thgenceli

    4thgenceli Active Member

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    Pull the bolt out, spritz a little down the bore. Follow up with a dry patch to pull excess off. Ammonia is supposed to neutralize and dissolve the corrosive shit.
     
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    nakedbrian3433 I don't have time to bleed. OT Supporter

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    Well I'll be damned. I learned something new today. :cool:
     
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    Cannondale OT Supporter

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    Stay away. I was given a stern talking-to by a Vietnam vet that was a field medic who said to stay away from that. I used to use it too and wasn't aware of the massive levels of benzine in there. I switched to Birchwood Casey Muzzle Magic, which is designed for black powder but works great as a first step in corossive priming cleanup. I'd like to get some of the Thompson Center bore cleaner because it's FDA food grade.
     
  14. SS109

    SS109 3100 FPS OT Supporter

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    It is a $75 dollar gun. Why bother cleaning it? Just shoot it intil you can no longer kick the bolt open.
    Right now your M-44 is probably cleaner than it ever was in the field. Plus M-44's aren't all that historical/collectible.
     
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    Buzz Killington nunc fortunatus sum

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    Nitrobenzine.

    Safety

    Nitrobenzene is highly toxic (TLV 5 mg/m3) and readily absorbed through the skin.[1]
    Although nitrobenzene is not currently known to be a carcinogen, prolonged exposure may cause serious damage to the central nervous system, impair vision, cause liver or kidney damage, anemia and lung irritation. Inhalation of fumes may induce headache, nausea, fatigue, dizziness, cyanosis, weakness in the arms and legs, and in rare cases may be fatal. The oil is readily absorbed through the skin and may increase heart rate, cause convulsions or rarely death. Ingestion may similarly cause headaches, dizziness, nausea, vomiting and gastrointestinal irritation.


    Man up, I say, and let it soak into your tongue while you clean your rifle.
     
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    Buzz Killington nunc fortunatus sum

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    Good gun advice. :ugh:
     
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    Jas0n Антихрист

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    Here's a site that's a pretty decent resource on the round and the Mosin. Might be worth a look if you haven't been...

    http://7.62x54r.net/
     
  18. 4thgenceli

    4thgenceli Active Member

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    Yeah I've been browsing that site for most of the day.


    Originally Posted by SS109 [​IMG]
    It is a $75 dollar gun. Why bother cleaning it? Just shoot it intil you can no longer kick the bolt open.
    Right now your M-44 is probably cleaner than it ever was in the field. Plus M-44's aren't all that historical/collectible.


    Yeah... I paid ($75) for the gun. Regardless of how much I paid/spent on it, I typically take care of my toys. $100 to $100000 I'll still maintain the fucker
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    :werd: or wear Nitrle gloves and a respirator
     
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  21. thegooch

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    It's not the ammonia. It's the water. People use windex b/c well it's cheap and ammonia dries much faster than water.
     

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