GUN WMD: Help me choose an AR barrel

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  1. XR250rdr

    XR250rdr OT Supporter

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    I had my sights set on a JP rifles 18" SS barrel kit but I talked to them this morning and they aren't accepting any new barrel orders until at least mid summer. I'm not sure I want to wait quite that long.

    So my question is who do you guys recommend I look at? Telling me to wait it out is possibly an acceptable answer.
     
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    What application?
     
  3. XR250rdr

    XR250rdr OT Supporter

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    Mostly target shooting out to at least 400 yards on a regular basis. Might also compete a little with it so I didn't want something too heavy.
     
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    WOA/WOP? They could probably hook you up... Check with GAP or APA too.

    Actually, I imagine most big barrel manufacturers could hook you up with a stainless AR tube, and you might even be able to choose your own contour.

    JP has their own proprietary chamber reamers though don't they? I guess if you specifically wanted that, you would probably have to just wait it out. Otherwise I'd just tell whoever is making it what kind of bullets/factory ammo you will be shooting, and tell them to chamber/throat appropriately.
     
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    I was going to suggest White Oak Armament, I loved the upper they sent me, and thus far it's been very accurate when given heavier ammo
     
  6. If you're interested in long range accuracy then look at Kreiger, Hart, Lilja, and Shilen. They all make AR barrels. Also, not to take anything away from JP, because they do make good stuff, but if you're real serious about accuracy, the 4 companies I mentioned are who are dominating competitions (especially Kreiger.)
     
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    ide also add satern and bartlein aswell
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    another vote for White Oaks.
     
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    Well if your talking 3 gun then the JP barrels dominate. For NRA highpower of other precision benchrest then the 4 MG mentioned are big players.

    Some thing to understand. For 3 gun if you have a tight 223 chamber like your would see for NRA high power and benchrest your setting yourself up for a world of hurt. In 3 gun with the fast shooting, and rolling around in the dirt you need a gun that runs reliably. The JP barrels have a wylde chamber which is like the middle road of 5.56 and .223. It's not vigin jailbait asshole tight, but it's not craiglist whore loose like a 5.56 would be.

    The second thing that makes JP popular is the barrel contors. They generally are lighter barrels and they have very good comps on them,

    So If you were looking for something other than a JP, but JP like I would maybe look at MSTN though they are $$$. You could also have a AR smith turn you a barrel like randal at AR15barrels.com. For isntance get a 20" bull barrel in 223 and have Randal make it like a JP.

    For 400 yards and maybe competition shooting (assuming you mean 3 gun) then you want a 16" (mid lenght gas system) or 18" (rifle lenght gas system) both in light weight or ultra light weight contor barrel with a wylde chamber. Add a good muzzle break like a JP/Cooley, or MICULIK/DPMS. Oh you also want 1/8 or 1/7 twist.
     
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    XR250rdr OT Supporter

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    I thought I replied earlier about my head being ready to explode. :o

    I'd be more interested in 3 gun probably than NRA highpower. Both sound fun but running and gunning is probably a bit more my style than ultra precision. I just need to buy a handgun too.

    Looks like MSTN is in somewhat the same boat as JP. They aren't selling barrels separately at the moment.
     
  11. Yeah, I was talking benchrest. Honestly, if you're more interested in shooting for fun than shooting for tiny groups at very long range then any of the good barrel makers will be fine.
     
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    I'm going to check into availablility on WOA's 18" SPR barrel tomorrow. Its a bit heavier contour than I was looking for, but should do the trick.
     
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    your first of any gun should be for shtf, then it's gravy after that
     
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    I want an SPR barell. Not sure if I'd build a true mk12 or just a long distance AR.
     
  15. XR250rdr

    XR250rdr OT Supporter

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    Yea I am considering just buying a complete upper then finishing this one as I can. There were a bunch available at the not-so-fun show last weekend and another show coming up this weekend.
     
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    This is for a first AR? Just get something you can beat on.
     
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    Yes
     
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    I want to build all sorts of crazy AR's too. But the Mforgery came first so I can have something to shoot like crazy and get comfortable with and learn on.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Ive got the 20" WOA SPR barrel Heavy son of a bitch

    Although for a 20" AR + Optic it only weighs like 9lb 6oz
     
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    Do you recall what the 20" SPR barrel weighs?
     
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    Might want to look into Wilson Arms as well. They make some decent barrels that can be had in SS and Wylde chambers. They make all the barrels for Rock River and many of their Wylde chambered guns are guaranteed sub MOA.

    I have a 16" SS Wylde chambered AR and it shoots very very well.
     
  22. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    2lb 9oz
     
  23. XR250rdr

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    hmm...thats what they're claiming the 18" SPR weighs.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Prob about right this one is fluted alot
     
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    Ah ok. The 18" I was looking at isn't fluted.
     

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