GUN WMD: Edumacate me on AR-15's

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  1. springy101

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    I'm pretty new to gun crew, and I would like to start learning about AR-15's. What are some good brands to look into, who makes good upgrade parts, what modifications most people do to them, everything.
     
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    Since you live in CA, I'd recommend that you register at calguns.net and read up over there. CA has some wacky laws that you should know before attempting an AR build.
     
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    I registered over there a while, I always forget about that place. I'll start looking there I guess.
     
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    I keep seeing OLL, what does it mean?
     
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    The upper receiver you linked is fine. The complete lower receiver is no good. It has an evil feature, the pistol grip, and can accept detachable magazines. No no in CA.
     
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    In CA, semiautomatic centerfire rifles are banned by name. You can find the maker and models in the Kasler List. Therefore, anything not on the list is legal, hence the term off list lower or OLL.
     
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    So I can have the pistol grip and fixed magazine, or no pistol grip and a detachable magazine?
     
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    Basically, yes. There are alternative grips. :barf: Look on the tenpercentfirearms link I posted.
     
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    Yea I am not a fan of the MMG's, go with a bullet button and get all the cool stuff :)
     
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    Oh ok, that makes sense now. Also, I'm still a little confused about the fixed magazine thing. Does that mean the mag can't just pop out and have a new one put in? How are you supposed to reload then?
     
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    If you go the bulletbutton (BB) route you use a bullet to drop the mag. it adds about 3 seconds to the time of removing your mag but IMO well worth it since you can then have all the goodies.
     
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    Ya those are ugly as fuck, so its either that or have a normal pistol grip and take apart my gun to reload it? Geez California sucks.
     
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    That would depend on the type of part you use to fix the magazine. With the Prince50 or Sporting something lock, the magazine is fixed in place and cannot be removed. You must topload with these while in CA.

    If you use a Bullet Button to fix the magazine, you can still remove the mag to reload. This is due to the BoF definition of a detachable magazine. According to them:

    "detachable magazine” means any ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action nor use of a tool being required. A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine.

    So, since a Bullet Button configuration requires you to use a tool to remove the magazine, it does not qualify as detachable. :bigthumb:
     
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    So that still counts as a fixed mag then? I gotta look those up. You run your own store or something don't you?
     
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    I personally think the Prince50 is dangerous. A simple jam gets complicated and could be dangerous.
     
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    Yes it counts as a fixed mag. Yes I do, we are expecting our FFL to clear within the next few weeks so we cannot deal with lowers right now but we can get you just about anything else including all parts needed to put lower together.
     
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    No kidding. You can forget about clearing double feeds.
     
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    I have been next to a few new shooters at the range with the prince50 and have seen them sweep the line trying to clear a jam :ugh:. At least with the BB you can just drop the mag and pull the charging handle.
     
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