GUN Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police without warrant

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  1. P-chan

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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Have a feeling this is going to go to a higher court :o
     
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    Not real sure how I feel about this. On one hand, it's not a search or seizure, and therefore wouldn't be protected under the 4th. It really isn't gaining any new information that couldn't be gained by normal visual surveillance.

    On the other hand, I think it's an invasion of privacy and they should have to get a warrant. What's to stop them from putting one of these on my car and then sending me a speeding ticket in the mail? :o
     
  4. It's an interesting ruling because in this case they pointed out the GPS unit didn't provide any information that wouldn't have been available had an officer just watched the vehicle.

    I could see a case if they got information on the vehicle's movements when it was out of view of the public, but in this case that didn't happen.
     
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    Then I guess the question comes to, do you believe the police should have to obtain a warrant before they are allowed to conduct visual surveillance on an individual? I don't - and that's where I'm torn about this :o
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    I think the real issue becomes they attached a device to his personal property without him knowing about it.
     
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    I don't think that is the issue, actually - I seriously doubt its prohibited by WI law for LEO to attach a device to a vehicle. :dunno:

    The issue arises when the police obtain information using this method that would NOT be available using traditional visual surveillance techniques.
     
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    You can bet your sweet ass if I found one on my car, that bitch is getting smashed into a million pieces.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Shits getting put on my neighbors car
    :mamoru:
     
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    thrown off a bridge.


    SIR HE JUST DROVE HIS CAR INTO A RIVER!!1
     
  11. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Or attach it to a plane.

    Holy shit hes got a flying car now too!
     
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    Actually, this is probably the best idea - since when "at home" the location will be roughly the same - just make sure your neighbor isn't a drug dealer or they'll try to charge you with shit he's done....does that work? :rofl:
     
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    put it on a boat

    "we're gonna need a bigger boat!"
     
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    It'd be a pretty Jack Bauer thing to do, and there's no way you could truly get screwed b/c they'll find out eventually that it's not the same car.
     
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    Then they charge you with destruction of state property :hsd:
     
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    how the fuck were you supposed to know it was state property
     
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    I wish they could attach one to my cars that's parked outside in the streets. That way, when it does get stolen (again), they'll be able to track it down to the scumbags who are stealing cars in my neighborhood, instead of waiting until it pops up as a stripped shell sitting on bricks on 16th/Burnham.
     
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    "i didnt know you attached it to my car, but if you did and its not here it must have fallen off (obviously without my knowledge) and presumably gotten destroyed (also without my knowledge)"
     
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    :rofl: its called lo-jack, no?
     
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    I dont know how its legal that police can go on your property and mess with your shit. Although they did have a warrant.
     
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    FWIW in practice, they're hard to get

    maybe in a couple years, they'll be more common, cheaper
     
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    Technically, I pay the taxes that fund these items. So it's technically mines to use right? :x:
     
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    My friend has a "buy here pay here" used car lot. He installs these GPS units on all the cars he sells. They are really small and fit on the side of the frame rail. If the people don't make their payments he can look up the vehicle and find out where it is within a 10' radius. He also keeps copies of the keys. If they are late and don't make arrangements he just goes and takes the car. :bowrofl:
     

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