Why is wheat/complex carbs better than bleached/enriched carbs?

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  1. michael

    michael FLORIDA > *

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    I just dont get what the difference is..

    Is it okay to have a higher carb diet if none of it is simple/enriched carbs?

    I am trying to stay away from HFCS and white bread, etc from now on and stcking to wheat bread, brown rice, wheat pasta, etc..

    I suck at diet since I've been eating anything and everything in sight for hte past 2 years.. now I need to start being a bit more selective..
     
  2. Marix

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    Slower digestion speed, more steady blood sugar (and hopefully less fat gain.. although this is debated.)

    Plus the main advantage of "natural" stuff over processed is the nutrient value - more fibre, more vitamins and minerals.
     
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    Marix got it rightr pretty much.
     
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    Because Im allergic to bleached carbs
     
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    otay cool.

    is it ok to get plain sugars from fruit? bananas/tangerines?

    I am trying to fix my diet :hs:
     
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    a little better than normal :) -- still a lot of carbs, but the ones from the subway were wheat bread and a bunch were from fruit.
     
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    Fiber is the most important factor I think. It will lower the GI which is a protection against insulin resistance.
    Fructose only gets stored as glycogen in the liver and the HFCS (high-fructose corn syrup) could replenish it real fast since the store has a little capacity. When the liver stores are full, sugar get converted to triglyceride so that it's stored as fat and it affects negatively blood profiles. Fruits are fine though, they usually contain only a half of fructose but they contain few grams of carbs while HFCS is taken in massive amounts.
     
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    no more HFCS for me!
     
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    simple carbs cause an insulin spike because they are rapidly digested in comparison to complex carbs. Your body cant meet the insulin demand to transport the carbs to your muscle cells and the excess become triglycerides and fat.
     
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    I guess it's also key to remember that wheat != whole wheat.

    From subway's website, the ingredients of their wheat bread:

    WHEAT BREAD Enriched flour (flour, malted barley flour, niacin, iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, whole wheat flour, high fructose corn syrup, wheat gluten, contains less than 2% of the following: wheat bran, yeast, salt, soybean oil, dough conditioner (acetylated tartaric acid esters of mono-and diglycerides, ammonium sulfate, calcium sulfate, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, potassium iodate, amylase (enzymes)], cracked wheat, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, caramel color (contains sulfites), dried honey preparation (honey powder, invert sugar, wheat starch, soy bran flour, silicon dioxide [anti-caking]), mineral oil. Contains soy and wheat.
     
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    mike you seem to be a hard gainer. i just don't see how you're going to gain on a diet like what you posted above.
     
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    It's fine. No one ever got fat from eating grapes.
     
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    carbs aren't significantly converted to fat unless liver and muscle glycogen are already maxed out
     
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    Everyone got it already pretty much and beat me to it.

    Simple sugars/carbs digest FAST and cause an almost immediate insulin repsonse (spike) and then the carbs wear off.

    Complex carbs will digest sloooower and give your body a longer amount of time to use them as energy and keep that insulin release a bit more stable and timed.
     
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    It's not as easy as that. Brown rice has a higher insulin response than ice cream, for example.
     
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    just when you think you know everything, you get slapped in the face.
     
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    Really? See that is cool, I did not know that. I THOUGHT Ice cream would have a higher response....(ie. body sees 40+g simple sugar and bam pancreas releases the good old insulin spike)...I always figured brown rice was a slower response. Where did you find that out? Not doubting you one bit, I just love learning new things every day.
     
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    :wtc:
     
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    Insulin response depends on a lot of factors. Fat and fiber content are the most important factors that will lower the insulin response I think. Plus, the general GI of the meal (GI of other carbs, protein content, etc) will influence the insulin response. There are some things that will influence insulin response which couldn't be predicted from the glycemic index even though it would be logical to think that they would be related. Milk is a good example : it has a higher insulin index that one could predict from the glycemic index.
     
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    I hate the GI concept. As andrew just said, unless you eat ONE food source the rules go out of the window. As soon as you combine your super-processed white bread or your organic porridge oats with something else the GI changes.
     
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