GUN Why is a good tactical shotgun $400, but an AR is $1500?

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  1. Jumpem

    Jumpem OT Supporter

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    The price difference is making me consider getting a shotgun as a stop-gap until I have the money to put down for an FS2000.

    Any recommendations for a tactical shotgun?
     
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    2L Bunny "It's only a Rabbit"

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    "Tactical"? Really?

    Seriously, Shotguns have much looser tolerances, less moving parts, and they make a bazillion of them in similar models to sporting shotguns.

    Affordable shotguns? Get an 870 or a 500/590. They're both great, buy which fits you best.
     
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    Milky I'm in your Millenium Falcon, rumbling your Wookie

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    You can customize any way you want to.
     
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    I'd say the benelli M4 is a good tactical shotgun, and its almost $1400, more if you want the collapsible stock.:hsugh: same for the spas(really not recommended though) and the M3.


    but i think a 870 with synthetics and lights will fit you needs.
     
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    THT The easy way is always mined

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    Why are you paying $1,500 for an AR? You can get a good midlength for less than $800.
     
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  8. Jumpem

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    I have my eye on an FS2000 actually, and they are $1900. My other choice was an XCR that is $1700. Cheapest thing that matches most of what I want is a S&W M&P15T, and that is $1300.
     
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    Don't get an FS2000. I have a friend who is a professional gunsmith, and he had one for a while. Way too complicated, and it still isn't as nice of a gun as an AR. He has an M&P15T, and I have the standard M&P15, either him or I would highly recommend them.
     
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    I like the FS2000 for it's size; under 30". I have yet to see a NY legal AR under 35-36. I have heard that the FS2000 is uber reliable, but if something did go wrong I have heard it is close to impossible to get parts or get it fixed.

    The M&P15T was on the top of my list for a "regular" AR-15, but $1300 seemed high to me for it. A bit more and you can get something exotic or gas-piston. :dunno:
     
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    You can build yourself a nice AR for under $800 if you wanted no bells or whistles with it

    CMMG 16" upper - $510
    CMMG Lower - $100
    lower parts kit - $70
    TAPCO buttstock - $70
    Total: $750
     
  13. Jumpem

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    At the least I want something with quad rails and folding sights. Then some sort of optic and light to be added to whatever I get. So I'd be expecting to spend $2-3k total for whatever I end up with.
     
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    You can spend 400 on a run of the mill shotgun or 400 on an AK or you can spend as much as you want 2k+ on a high grade shotgun or AR.

    95% of the time a 500 or 870 will do just fine.
     
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    if i ever get a shotgun, its going to have to be semi auto. pump actions don't do anything for me
     
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    you can cut your expected expenditure in half and still do what you want
     
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    How? An Aimpoint is ~$500 + Surefire weaponlight is ~$300. So I'm looking at $800 or so before I even choose a rifle.
     
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    I was thinking more along the lines of $350 Eotech and $150 Pentagon light but I guess you need the higher priced stuff, right? :rolleyes:

    Even at $800 for your light and optic, another 800 for a built gun still gets you less than 2000 and half-ish of 3000.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl: at you thinking you are going to spend $2,200 on that crap.

    MI rail - $140
    BUIS - $200 (If you go with awesome ones, less than $100 if you don't)
    Light w/mount $250ish
    OK so now you are up to $1,340 total before optics. I would go with an EOTech over AIMPOINT for fast targeting so add in another $350. Or you could go with a Bushnell HOLO sight which is nice for 250ish. You are still at half of your expected $3k total.
     
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    nigga needs a 500 aimpoint and 300 light. that means he probably needs a DD or Larue rail.
     
  22. Jimmy Pop Cornholio

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    Yea. If he wanted he could get everything he wanted for under $400 and build the rifle he wants for under $1300
     
  23. Jumpem

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    Maybe if I buy generic low end stuff. :hsugh:

    I haven't found a single rifle alone that meets what I am looking for for under that.
     
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    I spent $1,200 on my RRA midlength A4 and it came with:

    Surefire M85 quad rail
    YHM front flip up sight
    ARMS 40L rear BUIS
    Hogue rubber grip
    CAA 6 pos stock (later upgraded to a CTR)

    Then I spend $550 on an EOTech 553, $20 on a VLTOR mount and $100 on a Pentagon X3 w/ tapeswitch (later switched to a TLR1).
     
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    my build:

    stag lower: $200
    RRA LPK: $70
    MIAD: $45
    CTR: $150
    cmmg 14.5" upper w/ phantom 5C1: $585
    YHM lightweight carbine FF rail: $105
    troy BUIS: $120

    total: $1,275...and thats BEFORE optics.
     

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