GUN Why every home should have atleast 1 gun

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Police: Baby `left for dead' in SoCal house where 3 were slain
    Associated Press
    GARDEN GROVE, Calif. - A 1-year-old girl, beaten and dehydrated, spent as many as three days alone in a house with the bodies of her slain family, police said Tuesday.

    The baby girl was found late Monday when police, conducting a welfare check at the family's home, discovered the grisly scene - the bodies of a man in his 30s, a woman in her late 20s and a 7-year-old boy.

    "This is a very violent scene," said Lt. Mike Handfield. "It's one of the worst cases we've seen here in Garden Grove."

    Police did not immediately release the identities of the family. Autopsies were pending and detectives were still trying to notify next of kin.

    Because of the girl's dehydrated state, detectives believe the killings may have occurred Friday evening - the last time the family was heard from.

    The attacker or attackers kicked or hit the baby girl in the face.

    "She was left for dead," Handfield said. "If she would have been here any longer, she could have perished from lack of food and water."

    Investigators did not know the motive for the attack, and no arrests had been made. Authorities did not release the type of weapon used in the attack but they ruled out murder-suicide. There were no signs of forced entry.

    Evidence at the scene suggested the killings were not random and that the family knew whoever did it, Handfield said. The three dead were found upstairs. The boy was killed in his bedroom. Handfield did not know where the baby was found.

    "This was more personal than a random act," he said.

    Handfield said the evidence also indicated the attacker or attackers "did not run in and run out" and spent some time in the residence before leaving.

    The family lived on a street lined with two-story, stucco homes in Garden Grove, about 35 miles southeast of Los Angeles in Orange County.

    The slain woman worked for a casino in San Bernardino. When she did not show up for work on Saturday, co-workers became concerned. Some friends stopped by the house at one point, but did not see anything amiss and assumed the family was away, Handfield said.

    The slain man had a history of arrests on nonviolent charges and had once spent time in prison. Handfield declined to elaborate, adding investigators were unsure whether the man's past had anything to do with the homicides.
     
  2. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    If he spent time in prison then he probably had a felony. He couldn't have owned a gun, anyway. Yeah the wife could have been the "owner" but if he would have done the shooting then he would have been hung out to dry even if he was protecting his family. "and why felons should be able to own guns" should be added...
     
  3. lobstradomus

    lobstradomus New Member

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    I live in Orange County and there are way too many people here with a false sense of security. People simply dont talk about the violent crimes that are committed here. Also, Artyboy in CA there are numerous misdemeanors that prohibit you from owning a gun, I think the list of crimes is in PC 12021 and is about 2 pages long.
     
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    Being hung out to dry in a court of law > being dead
     
  5. I'd rather be "hung out to dry" than dead!
     
  6. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    That's not the point. The point is that a former criminal turned law abiding citizen can't protect themselves without still being a criminal.
     
  7. Michael Westen

    Michael Westen OT Supporter

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    I think everybody should have the right to defend themselves but as citizens, we are granted these rights, by abusing our rights and involving ourselves in criminal activity we give up these rights.
     
  8. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    The problem that I have with that is that you can NEVER redeem yourself short of getting a pardon which is damn near impossible unless you know someone.
     
  9. I agree that its bullshit. If someone intends to do harm with a gun, theyre going to do it no matter what. So fuck the background checks.. Every form of gun control is completely worthless IMO.
     

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