MMA Why do people say Saku is the GOAT?

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  1. Sammo

    Sammo New Member

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    If there was some top ten greatest of all time list, I think he would be at the later part of it or not on it all.

    Yes, he did some cool things early in 2000 with the Pride GP. Yes, he beat Royce Gracie and some other Gracies. But he was hardly dominant. Shortly after the GP, he loses to Wanderlei Silva..and again and again...also to Schembri, Lil Nog...etc.

    He`s an interesting character but vastly overrated. Yeah he`s 38 or so but look at Chuck...who isn`t being fed complete cans at his age. Randy is 5-6 years older, too. Just because Sakuraba partied too hard and fought big guys doesn`t mean that he should be considered the GOAT because he survived a bunch of fights.

    Sorry for the rant, I just see a lot of Sherdoggers leaning this way and I don`t buy it at all.
     
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    Sakuraba is not nearly the GOAT.
     
  3. Ali was never the best boxer of all time. He was extremely charismatic, and won a number of amazing/landmark fights.

    What Saku did to the gracies is legendary.

    That's why people say Saku is the GOAT.
     
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    JordanClarkson OT Supporter

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    pound for pound he might be the GOAT. fighting at 185-190lbs his record against 205's was 8-5 and against HW's 2-3. he was 13-2-1 against 185lbers, with one loss due to an illegal headbutt and the other royce was caught using steroids. despite being just a pro wrestler, he's only been submitted once (in his first fight) despite taking on the gracies themselves and their best students.
     
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    he's never impressed me but was also before my time
     
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    SaviouR Dallas - Choke City :(

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    To add on this:

    When he beat all four of the Gracies he never studied BJJ and was even dominant in some of the fights. Even when he fought against LHW/HWs he was arguably never outskilled either.

    Just watching him do a single leg takedown is a thing of beauty and grace too.
     
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    saku is a living highlight reel
     
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    Great match, sakuraba vs. newton.

    But really, what is a "GOAT"? giddy old ass tramp?
     
  9. Sammo

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    yeah I`ve seen it

    still doesn`t make him GOAT in my eyes
     
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    He's far from the best/most skilled mma fighter ever... but I've always been a big fan.
     
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    a lot of people actually do consider Ali the best boxer of all time, whether we agree on that or not

    Ali was active for almost 20 years, had only 5 losses and 3 of those were at the very end.
     
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    Greatest Of All Time
     

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