who's more advanced, the doctor or data

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  1. cyclaptor

    cyclaptor Active Member

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    this question has been bugging me for some time. give me ur opinions
     
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    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    definitely Data.
     
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    equal
     
  4. deusexaethera

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    They're both computers. The only difference is that the doctor's processing power came from the ship's computer, and Data's processing power came from his positronic CPUs. Given the impracticalities in using antiparticles, it's tempting to say Data was more advanced, but then the Doctor's image had to be surrounded by a forcefield, and we don't even have the beginnings of an idea of how that would work. So I'll say the doctor was more advanced, even if Data was more unique.

    By the way, a computer that uses positrons is totally impractical without a source of electrons to replace the electrons annihilated by the positrons. So it's back to being an electrical system. In 400 years, we'll be using optical transistors anyway, because (theoretically) optical transistors can perform multiple calculations simultaneously by acting upon multiple colors of light -- whereas electrical transistors can only handle one calculation apiece.
     
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    my nerdiness pales in comparison to this analysis :bowdown:
     
  6. deusexaethera

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    What can I say, I'm a software engineer and I used to read science books for fun when I was a kid.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    There's no way to compare. Neither is ever treated like a real computer. They're both infinitely advanced, and able to accomplish whatever is necessary to escape the current crisis. They both have abilities invented for them on the spot whenever necessary.

    How can you say which Deus Ex Machina is more advanced?
     
  8. deusexaethera

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    Based on the visible technology, that's how. You'll notice I never addressed the software component.

    Btw...neural net computing has existed for a long time now. It's just not very fast yet. It's also hard to be sure it's learning the right thing; one famous example is from when the Army tried to train a neural net to monitor some video cameras to watch for enemy tanks, but when they fed training material to the computer, all of the photos with tanks were taken on a sunny day, and all the photos without tanks were taken on a cloudy day. The goddamned thing learned to tell whether it was cloudy or not!
     
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    Data.

    The doctor always, always, always bugged the shit out of me.

    Data was endlessly more interesting and non-annoying
     
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    The Doctor IMO is the single best Star Trek character ever. With Archer & Trip trailing ever so slightly.
     
  11. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Six months ago I would have argued with you. Now I'm not sure I agree, but there's merit to your claim.

    I think Q and Garak are better characters, though. As far as regular characters, you can't beat Kirk/Spock/McCoy as a group.
     
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    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    00o0o forgot about Garak and Dukat. I did like them as well.
     
  13. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Yeah, Dukat too. :cool:
     
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    i think data is easier to destroy.
     
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    Garak clone cyborg
     

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