Discussion in 'On Topic' started by PorscheRacer, Mar 25, 2009.
How much louder are muzzle breaks then flash hiders?
I had an AK muzzle brake on my Bushmaster (post-ban model so it couldn't have an evil flash hider ). It was quite loud, especially for those immediately to the sides of me at the range. Just replaced it with a Phantom flash hider and I'm much happier with it.
Not sure why a .223 needs a muzzle brake anyway.
Some guy had a Bohica Arms .50cal upper with a small break. Friend has a Bushmaster BA-50 with a gigantic break. We shoot both and yea, that Bushy was loud.
have one on my sprgery.like it alot.i bought one for a 6.8 build
Trust me a good muzzle break makes all the difference. For long range shots your recticle bounces less and you see more. If you miss you can see your miss and make a correction. You see stuff like what direction the puff of dirt went to make your wind calls. If your shooting ground squirrels you get to "watch the movie" aka red mist and flying fur.
For short range hosing the shot to shot recover is faster. You can get lead on target faster and tighter.
For most people a flash hider is of limited usage. If you had expensive night vision gear I would understand how a good flash hider is a must, otherwise not much point.
The PW brakes arent too obnoxious sounding and they work really well.
Bonus they do offer some flash suppression without being legally a flash hider.
I have a PWS comp for my Grendel. I haven't shot it yet so I can't report on how well it works though.
Go shooting so I can get a range report before I buy.
What break would you recommend?
tell me that isnt one of the most ugly attachments ever witnessed
I actually took the stock off the Grendel and gave it to Laurel for her AR build.
There are a few really good muzzle breaks/compensators and a bunch that are garbage.
The two most popular are the JP tactical comp from jprifles.com (aka bennie cooley comp) and the Miculek comp (made by DPMS now IIRC). Really for the money $70 for the jp, and $50 for the miculek there is no reason to get something else.
Now these flash suppressor, muzzle break hybrids in my opinion are pretty disapointing in both areas. It's kind of opposing designs. For a comp you need big chambers and baffles to let the gasses detonate, and vent to stablize the gun. This is the complete opposite that you want for a flash suppressor. I've shot a few of these hybrids and I was not impressed.
I highly recommend the PWS. Recoil is night and day different compared to without. The PWS forces some gas upward as well as to the sides. Dedicated breaks may be better, but not much. Loud as fuck though.
go to rainierarms.com and download the videos of it in action
Well the thing you have to understand that comps are loud for a reason. They are working, gasses are expanding and being directed with enough force to stablize the gun.
You cannot tell how good a comp is by looking at somebody shoot a gun in a video. You have to see it from behind the gun looking through a scope. I have no experience with the PWS but front sight (uspsa industry magazine) did a write up on comps and IIRC they junked it.
except that if you watch the vids he's shooting some pretty good one handed groups
PWS is the shit. I ran a couple mags through my buddies M16 last year and was very impressed.
Have you used any other breaks?
I've used some of the JP brakes and they worked well. The PWS one without the flash hider is something like ~$50, worth it IMO.
So I have the stock "half-moon" break on my AK, and I was sent a fully enclosed break by accident when I ordered a Front Site tool. Can anyone recommend a decent one for a 7.62 AK?