MIL Where does the military get their docs?

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  1. greenpillow

    greenpillow New Member

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    I am just wondering.. :o do they pluck the bottem students from residency?

    For thoes who are wondering about the son's echocardiogram, it came back OK but still needs aspirin for the next 6 weeks! :wiggle:
     
  2. They sign a contract, some of them do ROTC through their undergrad years, the Army pays for med school they come out a captain and bam start working for the Army.
     
  3. Ranger-AO

    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    I have to agree with you Greenpillow. I saw a civilian doc today. He spent 5 minutes looking at my mangled thumb and said he felt confident that he could get most of the feeling back and all of the range of motion back. He said he could have almost guaranteed it to me if he had been able to work on it within a few days of the injury (it happened in early April).

    The Army docs at Camp Liberty told me flat out that there was nothing that could be done for it. Period. Take two Motrin, drink more water, change your socks, etc. :mad:
     
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    Those are the actual doctors, the ones who are in the field are normal enlisted service members who goto a MOS school to learn their job like anyone else.
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    They are backed up by real docs (officers).

    When my thumb was getting stitched up, it was my medic (enlisted - SPC Murdoc - and I'll knife anyone in the back that talks shit about him) that did the work, but there was a PA looking over his shoulder, directing and giving advice, and signing all the paperwork.
     
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    Well my sons pedi doc tried to pass somthing serious off as something not serious.. it could have killed my son! Just so they would not have to do paperwork. He will be ok now that I pushed the issue and saw a real doc.
     
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    if you get seen by a captain doctor in the military you might as well get a second opinion. Those are the ones that are still fresh out of med school .
     
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    EBK Hate hippies & hadjis

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    motrin and stay hydrated :rofl::rofl::rofl: HOOAH MOTHERFUCKER!!
    shit cures cancer
     
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    TigreTek omega member OT Supporter

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    that'd be the same issue in the civilian world.
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    True, but you have to admit that civilian general practice docs have MUCH more tools at their disposal than the average sick call doc.

    The sick call doc only needs to know about Motrin. :hsugh:
     
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    You cant just pick a new doc if you do not like your old one.. :nono:
     
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    from med school...







    cha ching!
     
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    I guess the navy does things differently. If you went to sick call for something like that you wouldn't see a doctor at all. Corpsmen handle pretty much everything except for surgery and minor parts of physical exams. It's the IDCs (HM1 and above) that sign off on most stuff.

    Even with dental the officer is only in there for a few minutes looking at the xrays and stuff then he hands it over to the HN to do the actual work. The officer has never been in the room looking over their shoulder any time I get work done.
     
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    Not so much when you're deployed.


    It was a PA. I'm assuming they were a medical doctor. :dunno:

    I grew up as a navy brat. When we were in Naples, Italy I had to go to the navy hospital for tests a lot. EVERY time they sent us down to the blood lab to get blood drawn, I'd fight 'em tooth and nail. There was a life-size hand-drawn poster of dracula with blood dripping from his fangs right behind the chair they wanted to sit me in to draw my blood. Uh Uh... NO FUCKIN' WAY. I was the picture of a calm obedient 6 year old boy right up until it was time for the corpsman to deal with me, and then the fight was on motherfuckers!

    I wouldn't have done it if it hadn't been for that damn poster. I never put up a fight at any other base we were ever stationed at. My record was 8 corpsmen having to hold me down to draw blood. From a 6 year old. :mamoru:
     
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    Good news, I am seeing a civilian hand specialist for my hand. Only a month and four days after I broke it.
     
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    :rofl:I am only laughing because they did that with me.. but with my foot!

    I MUST be standard.. I hope they are able to fix your hand with out re breaking it.:hs:
     
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    Woot!! I did one doc & 4 nurses for 2 stitches at 6 y/o :rofl:
     
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    a PA isn't quite a doctor... They think they know more than they do. I was having some issues with my knee and wanted to see the usual doc but got stuck with a PA instead. I was expecting to get pitched up to a specialist but instead was told that I might have torn my meniscus and that I wouldn't be able to do any sort of running/jumping for two weeks. Two weeks pass and my knee still isn't any better so I get an MRI done and it comes back normal. finally i get pitched up to a specialist and after looking at my knee mechanics and the usual poking and prodding that an orthopedist does he says that I have patellar tendinitis and gives me physical therapy. He also looked at the MRI images but they didn't show him anything.
     
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    almost 2 years after hurting my hip, I still walk with a limp, am on profile, and they haven't done shit except scratch their collective asses.

    I honestly don't think they are BAD doctors, I just assume they are looking at it more as "get the sand out of this soldiers vagina and put him back to work" rather than "lets find out what the actual problem is then FIX it"
     
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    nah, the PA program for the armed forces is just a 2 year master's program down at Fort Sam and you take classes at University of Nebraska, I believe. Looked into it, not really worth it. I'm still sticking with medical school.

    According to wikipedia: In the United States, a physician assistant (PA) is an advanced practice clinician licensed to practice medicine with the supervision of a licensed physician.[1]
     
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    My corpsman assault pack is full of motrin......thats it :o

    haha j/k but srsly we give motrin for everything :o
     
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    THey get them from the unemployment line, they give pain killer for everything
     
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    Since these docs do their residency (post-graduate training) through the military they definently do not get the same kind of training that a doctor that works in a hospital all day. I would think that doctors that work in a hospital all day see a greater variety of complications than those that work for the military.
     
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    if only you guys knew. I spent a year in Iraq, and durring that year, I worked with some of the best doctors in the world. How many of you actually worked in a TMC? the docs are there to help us medics, half the time I would do everything from registering patients to perscribing meds, I would just tell the doc my plan, and he would approve it. One of the best things about military medicine is how much you learn, I was doing things in Iraq that most RNs can't do, as a mere Combat Medic. Talk shit all you want, but make sure you know what ur talking about before you dis my army docs
     

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