A&P When people sell their 7D for a 5D Mark II..

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  1. RE\/

    RE\/ More comfortable than what? Being stabbed? OT Supporter

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    What else (aside from the full frame) are they looking for in a camera to quantify that $1k extra?

    Build? Full frame is just better? :dunno:
     
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    build is the same, screen is the same, menu is the same, ergonomics are the same

    so the only really thing you are really getting when switching from the 7D to the 5D Mark II are:

    little better IQ
    little better ISO performance
    Full frame
    AF system that is crappier
    less FPS
     
  3. essejgnad

    essejgnad poopty pangts

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    Also, if you go with used ones there's only about a $500 price difference
     
  4. iRate

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    yea, I just saw one on POTN for 2100, which came with a grip and 2 canon batteries.
     
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    Damn, buying a 7D is really a good deal!
     
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    7D is a good camera for the money ( people are selling them used for 1400-1500 )
     
  7. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    The ergonimics are not the same.
     
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    I stand corrected. Nicholas is correct.

    Ergonomics are a little different. 7D is has been said to have a little bit more room for your fingers per some websites, if need the room? I've held both ( not at the same time though ) and don't recall any huge differences ( nothing like holding a XSi to a 5D for a example )

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    The 7D has a hump or something between your index and middle finger. It did feel nicer holding it than when holding my 5D2 :o
     
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    You also lose the CLS-equivalent (whatever Canon is calling it).
     
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    OH that IR light built into the 7D? yea, I wonder how good that is, compared the canon St-E2
     
  12. RE\/

    RE\/ More comfortable than what? Being stabbed? OT Supporter

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    The reason I asked is because I have a 7D and I've seen people switch up. Having a cropped body hasn't really bothered me. I guess the whole point of being able to use cheaper EF-S lenses is kinda what draws me to it somehow.

    The built in wireless transmitter is ok. Though it strictly needs a clear line of sight and isn't capable of transmitting anything over 40ft away. So it's bit useless when you start using umbrellas or start shooting telephoto. Radio transmitters are still what you need.
     
  13. Ty Webb

    Ty Webb You don't have to go to college. This isn't Russia

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    I could never go back to non-FF.
     
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    I dont think its IR. Im 99% its all through the flash just like Nikon's system is..
     
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    I dont think the pop up flash needs to be up for the 7d to trigger off camera flashes....
     
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    I think nikons is ir. It is just transmitted through the pop up. That's how it transmits the ttl metering info to the off cam lights. I've even see a little shield you can buy to block all visible light cast by the pop-up. People use them to eliminate any catch light the pop-up might cause when using cls.
     
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    full frame /thread
     
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    I dont think it was a thread on which to pick, I think it was a thread to see what the reasoning of people in going from 7d to 5d

    now if only the 5d mark II had the 7d AF......

    I have the feeling the Mark III is going to be pretty badass
     
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    Can't you just set it to have no affect? I thought I saw that on the d700..
     
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    You don't even need a shield.
    In the Nikon CLS menu you just set the internal flash setting to "--" and it makes sure the pop flash doesn't have an effect on the image.
     
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    MSIGuy om nom nom nom!

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    What do you do that necessitates full frame?
     
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    having 1x1 for the extra coverage is GREAT....plus the DOF is better...

    but thats my take on it
     
  23. wrong1

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    setting it to -- does work to an extent. The light will still cast visible reflections in your subjects eyes, or other shiny surfaces... Mirrors, picture frames etc... and if you are close enough to your subject it will still effect exposure.
     
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    Your 24mm lens it actually shows 24mm.
     
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    The Nikon CLS is IR, but the camera body doesn't have an IR transmitter, so it transmits through a series of pre-flashes that transmit the data. The flashes contain enough of the IR spectrum to transmit all of the data.

    But you can block the visible light with a piece of exposed film or Nikon's SG-31R, which blocks the visible light but allows the infrared light to pass the data onto the flashes.

    Of course, you could just go buy the SU-800, which is a straight up IR transmitter and controller.

    I can't wait for Nikon to just build a real IR or radio transmitter into their camera bodies. This is one thing I really don't understand when it comes to cameras right now... Why hasn't someone done this? Imagine a PW built into your camera body. Jesus, that would be sweet.
     

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