GUN When are you justified to shoot someone?

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  1. Resin

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    I understand if you life is threatened it's ok, but what about other scenerios such as bank robberies? or another person being attacked
     
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    Too many variables to make a complete and correct response to that question. One would have to write a book of some sort listing all the do's, don'ts, and variables. Things also depend on what state you live in.
     
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    airplane piracy and treason :dunno:

    the general rule of thumb it is only reasonable when as major risk of great bodily harm or death (think forceable felony) is present toy yourself, some states have an "in their shoes" clause, which states that you can defend another person if you were in their place you would be justified using deadly force, but that is risky, I mean if man is beating his wife and does it habitually he is doing something illegal, but not great bodily harm or death, plus the wife might go after you in court.

    As lightspeed said though, it depends on your location as to what he rules are when and how deadly force can be used, most people who carry have chosen to do so to protect themselves and even without a gun the best way to do that is to stay out of those situations in the first place. No one want to play hero and put themselves at more risk.
     
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    i would never shoot someone in defense of property. i would shoot someone if the life of myself or another person were at risk. whether this is legally justified maybe different than what is justified in my mind. if i am in a position to save someone's life then that's what i would do and worry about the consequences later.
     
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    Most states you would be covered if defending someone else, but it all varies by state.
     
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    Only after if he shot me first. :o
     
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    Bank robbery? Only if I felt threatened. Most people that rob banks are pros and just want to get in and out. Trying to be a hero = you die

    If my life is in danger, you can damned well be sure I will use.
     
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    Shoot first, ask questions later, let god sort them out.
     
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    Here in Az you can also shoot someone committing arson to an occupied building, or someone molesting a child.
     
  10. Resin

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    oh nice
     
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    Then pay $20k to clear your name.
     
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    Most legal definitions boil down to: To protect yours or another's life. If you felt you were about to be or someone else was about to be killed.

    Lots of states have other additions. In alaska, you can shoot to kill someone stealing your firewood in the middle of winter. If you mark your property there with SHOT ON SIGHT signs every 50 feet on the border, guess what: You can shoot on sight.

    In TEXAS You can shoot a repo man taking your car, believe it or not. lots of companies don't write poor credit loans to Texas residents, heh.
     
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    I have a free attorney.
     
  14. Resin

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    well it is Texas.....:hsugh:
     
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    This even varies from state to state.
     
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    here you can shoot a guy if you catch him raping a chick
     
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    In this state, there is a 3-way test which involves ability, opportunity, and jeopardy.
     
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    defending yourself or others from a threat.

    you cant shoot someone for stealing or running away. you can only shoot if you or someone else is in danger. like you can shoot an unarmed midget for attacking tito ortiz.
     
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    Yuppy Have a seat right there....

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    thats not 100% accurate.
    the firewood i would believe before i believed the signs. shoot an illegal when you have those signs up and you wont get away with it most likely.
    interesting. the arson i would believe. but the molestation? sure no jury would convict you, i imagine that if you shot a kid on santas lap because you thought that santas hands were not in the right place you wouldnt get away with it

    you want to avoid shooting at all costs for the most part. especially in blue states.
     
  20. I thought it all depended on the state laws.
     
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    In Oregon same laws apply as any other trespasser/intruder while on your property. Off your property, however, is another matter.
     
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    It's all dependant on state law. I know our state laws very well, and I'd suggest you go and get direct legal council, as did I. Understand, and know ahead of time the rules of engagement before you even consider CCW.

    Don't get this info from the internet! If we're wrong, you have no recourse.
     
  23. zxghostrider

    zxghostrider Sometimes you gotta hop on two wheels

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    In Florida, you can use deadly force to stop a forcible felony. Every state is different though.
     

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