MIL What's the deal with motorcycles and the military?

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  1. seven

    seven New Member

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    A buddy of mine who just got in told me I would have to

    -take a base safety course
    -pass a base motorcycle exam
    -get approval from my commander
    -get a hazardous activities report approved

    what the hell?

    My motorcycle is about all i got to my name, i'll be stationed in Edwards AFB so i figured it would be a great place to own a motorcycle. Another buddy told me having a sports bike is frowned upon.

    My big problem is that my bike is my only form of transport, I hear all this red tape to be allowed to ride on base takes like 3 month to go through. I have nothing as far as money to get a car.

    anyone have any experience with this matter? anything i need to do? i really don’t want to sell the bike, but all the officers I’m talking to are telling me to get rid of it.

    The military is the last place i figured you'd be scrutinized for owning a bike.
     
  2. jjski78

    jjski78 New Member

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    It's really not that big of a deal to go through. Your squadron should have a motorcycle safety rep who can speed you through the process. You have to go through all that crap because if you don't, and you get in an accident, Tricare won't cover your medical costs, or worse, if, God forbid, you're killed, they won't pay out your SGLI.
     
  3. seven

    seven New Member

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    you know, when you put it like that it seems reasonable. i guess i'll just have to walk for a while
     
  4. MrRyan

    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    Motorcycle deaths make up a good chunk of non-combat active duty deaths.
     
  6. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    We had a guy die in the parking lot. He picked up the front end, couldn't get it down and found a wall.
     
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    MumblingJoe169 New Member

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    i havent heard anything like this in the army. According to my OBC's site, i can have it as long as i take their course.
     
  8. TwoRotor7

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    I was in the Air Force and my only transportation was a street bike. They dont run everything they can tell you its bad..get rid of it. Its your life you choose. All you need to do is take the MSF safety course go to the safety rep and thats really it. Well except the monthly motorcycle safety brief lol gay...
    So stick with the bike man jsut ride safe!

    Nick
     
  9. Sharkticon

    Sharkticon The safest place in combat is on an AEGIS Class Gu

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    Not all bases have the same policy. My base; all I had to do was take MSF or equivalent and take proof of that, along with my endorsement, registration and proof of insurance to the pass office. Now I have base decals.

    The main reason, as other have mentioned, commanders are up in arms about motorcycles is alot of AD service members are dying because of them. Coming back from the Sandbox and with a little coin in their pockets and buy GSXR 1000s without having any prior experience. So, if you REALLY want to ride your motorcycle, you need to show your command you are willing to do what you need to ride it.

    Personally, I wouldn't just take the base safety course, I'd also take the MSF course and an advanced and group riders course if available.

    Also make sure you wear your gear on and off duty. We recently had a guy busted and ordered not to ride his bike anymore because he dumped it without any PPE.
     
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    cRaZe 3rd world slummin

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    In top gun they had an air force officer speeding on a ninja and not wearing a helmet.
     
  11. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Well he is not. Not anymore.
     
  12. ManinCamo

    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    thats the Navy, slick.
     
  13. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    In Red October, they had an Air Force guy loading the torpedo.
     
  14. seven

    seven New Member

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    i've taken the MSF already so i guess that will make things easier too.
     
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    TRN Well-Known Member

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    Sadly it is a pain in the ass.
    I've basically stopped riding on base all together now.

    The Marine Corps even forces you to be part of a bike club in your unit.
     
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    When I was on active duty, probably 70% of my unit (a SF unit) had bikes, including the Colonel. Most of them were cruisers though. The thing to do was buy a Harley in Germany or somewhere else in Europe since they were readily available. The unit as a whole was motorcycle friendly, but you had to complete the requirements to ride.
     
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    mrduke OT Supporter

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    On base here the only requirement is the MSF course. Sounds like the navy's a bit less strict on this one.
     
  18. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    I'm fairly certain that it hasn't gotten any more lenient over the years, but I know that it used to be a requirement that you wear close toed shoes, preferably steel toed if you could. Long sleeves (yes a long sleeved shirt qualifies) and pants, and always wear a Helmet. Much like a seat belt to military personnel a helmet is not an option it's mandatory. You also have to wear the bright orange safety vest. I know a lot of people just wore the vest long enough to get on and off base, but it was really a requirement.

    Things might've changed a little, but those were minimums when I was in, I doubt that they've gotten more lenient about safety gear.
     
  19. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Now all riders are required to wear a personal airbag incase they are thrown from their bike. Here is a prototype model: Clicky
     
  20. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    photobucket is websensed:mamoru:
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    It was a horrible joke. Don't worry about it.
     
  22. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    that's a continuing trend with you isn't it:mamoru:
     
  23. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Yeah, every now and then one will stick :o .
     
  24. RoblesGT

    RoblesGT [Track Days: 19 ][Crashes: 1] [SuMo Days: 1 ][Cras OT Supporter

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    fixed.
     
  25. TRN

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    No :o



    You go to meetings and talk about safety (as always)

    You're supposed to do a group ride once a month or something too.
     

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