what's a respectable raw squat?

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  1. GTLifter

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    So MaineSucks and I both squatted 400ishx10 this weekend. Maybe it's the enviroment I train it but I still feel weak even though based on the reaction to Maine's video in the brag/complain thread it is a decent set.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I think anything over 500 is "pretty good", 600+ is getting beastly, 700 and over is godlike and if its 800+ then you're in a very elite group of individuals

    for the record my best was 500x5 in a belt, never tried a 1RM at the "peak" of my squatting. Right now I might be able to squat 500 once if you put a gun to my head since I don't really train squats anymore and when I do I don't go heavy. Would probably take a month or so to build back up.
     
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    anything that pushes your limits is respectable
     
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    It depends entirely on the squat. I've seen guys do "PL" squats with 600 and can't close stance deep squat 405 for more than a few reps.

    As with most things PL everything gets fucked up because of the differences in rules.. but.. a close stance squat deep squat: 500ish? a PL style parallel squat? 600? No idea
     
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    I've started wearing a pair of oly shoes and squatting with a closer stance too if that matters. I feel a lot more explosive but still not comfortable with a high bar position.
     
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    Over 500 catches my eye...
     
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    I squatted 410x10 I think and I always thought I was a terribvle squatter, and maybe 500x3?. I did that natty niggars. LMAO
     
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    Hell, 400 x 10 is :eek3:
     
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    ehh....not really imo...
     
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    :dunno:
     
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    Olympic Squat with anything 500+ raw is :coold: in my book
     
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    In my gym, since no one really squats heavy I'd be impressed to see 405 for 5 or more reps. In the big scheme of things I'd say anything over 500 is good.
     
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    Any particular reason as to why you switched other than feeling more explosive?
     
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    Everything is relative to your BW. If you're 220, you should be squatting a lot of weight. The most I remember working with, just using a belt was 2.3x my BW for 5. If you're a midget, none of it matters cause you squat like 4"
     
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    I saw you do 405 for 12+ easy at Gold's a ~year ago?
     
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    500 has always been a long term goal of mine..

    what was the body weight?
     
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    They have made it a lot easier to break parrallel and stay more upright.

    Was more like 6-8 and they were GM-squats to questionable depth.
     
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    It really depends on viewpoint... I did 400x10 today and had two people tell me that was a great set. When I work up higher in weight, everyone stops to watch at my commercial gym.

    Then you see the asshole guys that load up 4 plates on the bar and move it about 4 inches then claim they rep 405.

    I think anything over 500lbs is a very respectable raw squat. A lot of people can hit 4 plates if they train hard and smart. 500 and beyond is getting to "very strong person" territory.
     
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    true they were GM-Squats, but it was at LEAST 10.
     
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    I agree with 1fast. Its all about your weight. For me I think people sub 180 squatting 400 is a feat that most will never see, unless they have trained that way since they were young. I'm talking about normal stance with flat shoes, no oly shoes or wide stance.
     
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    I'll check my training log. Pretty sure it was 8.
     
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    Shoes don't really make a difference bro.
     
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    http://forums.offtopic.com/showpost.php?p=103187727&postcount=1370

    405x8. I remember squatting with you then doing some incline shit and this is the same time period the school gym shuts down for a week so this has to be it.

    So I've managed to barely get stronger in the past year? great.
     
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    I'm 6' tall, 34 inseam and was 164 at the time. I was around 10% bf (did 370 for 5). Until my BS knee issue today, I'd been working with 265 for 6-8 with 90 seconds rest between sets (obviously not a power workout and I had a year off, just started 12 weeks ago). Right now I'm about the same, 164ish at 10%. That's going down proper, close stance and with my long ass legs it feels like it's 10'. I can squat a shit ton more if I use a wider stance. I'm all hamstrings from my college running days. I'm just trying to build my quads now.

    Legs are the ONLY thing I'm even remotely "strong" on for my skinny frame
     
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    I beg to differ
     
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