GUN what's a good group at 100 yds

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  1. Hooligan

    Hooligan New Member

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    rem 700 in 30-06
     
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    bench rest also
     
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    Depends......

    For a unmodified factory box stock rifle, I'd be fairly happy with anything approaching 1MOA.....

    I'd be more inclined to shot a couple 5 or 10 rd strings, and look for clues regarding dispersement. You want nice, round groups. Anything else means a problem with your form, or mechanical woes. Large vertical dispersion is especially indicative of mechanical stuff.

    Also...... while you are doing that, consider box testing your scope.
     
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    lol i was gonna say 1/4 inch
     
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    :hs: I suck.
     
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    Read this:
    http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/sightron-siii-8-32x56-scope-test-part-ii/

    If it's still unclear, go search over at SH, or 24hrcampfire (I think there were a couple good writeups there).

    Principle is to basically twist and fuck with everything on the scope, then create a "box" from bullet holes to make sure the erector is repeatable.

    This is how you know that your scope is working. I do this to every new piece of glass that I come across, and it's the first thing I check if I feel that something is amiss in the rifle/scope arrangement (with the possible exception of mounts).
     
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    Pretty much.

    I like to yank on any other knobs/dials I can find during it as well, but you get the jist of it.
     
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    Finished zeroing in my scope on the left, 3 shots on the right.

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    Need to shoot more shots in a group. 3 shots doesn't tell you enough.

    Remember what I was saying about bedding and fliers though?
     
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    What range are you shooting at?
     
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    no i forgot
     
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    the rings aren't adjustable.

    i don't think the sealing affected me here, because it's brand new,.
     
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    Is the rifle broken in? Are you using match ammo? Wind conditions? There are lots of factors.

    Like I always say not every rifle shoots 1". In fact I would say very few actually do and usually only after work has been done on the rifle. It's a equation of shooter, ammo, rifle, and conditions.

    Internet bullshit would have you believe almost every rifle will shoot moa regardless of ammo, and enviromental factors, etc. Nonsense.
     
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    Rings can be a big factor. Just like the scope you get what you pay for. Your zero could wander shot to shot.

    The bedding can alter the repeatability.
     
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    depends on the ammo you are feeding the gun.
     
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    you say that as though it's not possible. :o
     
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    http://benchrest.com/youngrails/

    http://benchrest.com/magnummetal/

    On a good day with good ammo you might be able to shoot a group subtract bullet diameter and get something less than the bullet diameter itself with a rail gun.

    Of course want2race would whoop these guys up and down the bay with a box stock rem 700 while shooting unsupported freehand and eatting a sandwich at the same time.
     
  19. Gale McMillan shot a .009 inch group at 100 yards. It was initially measured at .000, but after many more examinations and all manner of applying technology to "accurately" measure the group, it was recorded as .009"
     
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    i would be happy with MOA. i own said rifle.
     
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    the rings are good. They were not the cheapys

    The scope is nice too I think. It's a $300 nikon from cabelas.

    The rifle is completely stock and today I shot the first 30 rounds ever through it.

    Wind was good. No factor.

    Ammo was Winchester super x 180 gr. Decent stuff.

    How long does it take to break in a gun?
     
  22. If the barrel was built properly, there is no such thing as a break-in period.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    The 3shots on the right the bottom two are fine the top one looks like user error
     
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    yeah it's a good gun, I just suck
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    We all have our strength and weakness, I suck ass monkeys with pistols
     

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