What would happen if...v.repschemes

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  1. hootpie

    hootpie New Member

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    you took two people (who happen to be identical) and kept every aspect the same except for the rep scheme they used.

    Guy A: 3x8 of everything
    Guy B: 5x5 of everything

    What would be the difference between the two after a year with a generic bulk/cut cycle ie. would one have more mass, would one have more strength etc?
     
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    i was wondering this, too
     
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    3 sets of 8 or 8 sets of 3?

    And the weight used would be the same as well as the entire length of the workout too?
     
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    It would depend on their body type. I.E. people respond to different rep amounts.
     
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    EDIT: Guy B would do 1 more reps :run:
     
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    ninja edit
     
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    ninja is before i can quote it.

    you are no ninja
     
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    i think guy B would be stronger. As far as size, it's tough to say. 8 reps may be better for hypertrophy, but assuming my first statement is correct, guy B is going to be moving more weight, albeit at a slightly less optimal rep range for mass.
     
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    I made more progress with B.

    (Assuming you use the same weight for each set)
     
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    Well... if both complete all their sets in 10 min and used the same weight... apparently, the 5x5 clone would on average be producing more force per set.
     
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    3x8 i would assume as more hypertrophy. 5x5 would probably be able to recruit more motor units but that doesnt equate to size.
     
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    I meant 3 sets of 8 reps and both are using the same amount of weight initially.
     
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    :rly:
     
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    :werd:. exactly why I go 'heavy.'

    more weight, more force exerted, more tension, more muscle breakdown, more muscle buildup, more cns activity, more mind/muscle connection, etc etc..

    if i dont feel like i'm going to die, albeit from relatively 'lightweight', then i know i'm not doing shit for myself
     
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    So would one be stronger/bigger than the other?
     
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    But the initial question asked for 5x5 and 3x8 not who is using heavier loads. If the weights are the same for both people more hypertrophy will occur with the 3x8.
     
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    So the 3x8 guy would have more mass? According to what I've read off other threads on this forum, the 3x8 guy would have more mass, but the 5x5 guy would be stronger. Is this true?
     
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    it seems like it
     
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    The whole point of the 5x5 routine is to lift heavy. The 5x5 lifter would not only be smaller but would be the same strength if not weaker than the 3x8 lifter. In order for the 5x5 routine to be effective you have to be able to lift heavy.
     
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    if the loads are the same no. Perpetually if the loads are the same the 3x8 would be larger and stronger.
     
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    Not necesserily.

    If both did their respective 3x8 and 5x5 with say...200lbs and finished all their sets in the same 10 min (3x8 person had longer rests), as I said previously 5x5 would exert more force on average on each rep since I'd assume there'd be less fatigue in his rep/ set scheme. Besides greater force per rep, 5x5 would have also done more volume (by one rep).
     
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    I always though 5x5 was more for strength.

    I thought that you would pick a weight you wanted to do 5x5 with and then you would try to do it. So say for bench if you wanted 225x5 you would do:
    215 x 5
    220 x 5
    225 x 4 (failed)
    225 x 4 (failed)
    225 x 3 (failed)

    Then next time you would improve until you get 225 x 5 every time. That way you're increasing strength.
     
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