GUN What to get first? Carbine length or mid length upper?

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  1. johnson

    johnson New Member

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    I eventually want two AR's, one carbine for a lightweight all around shtf use and a mid length for general use.

    Carbine similar to this:
    Novesker N4 basic upper w/ DD Omega 7 rails and Aimpoint T-1
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    And mid length:
    Noveske N4 Recce low profile upper (SWS rails) or have one put together with LaRue or DD rails.

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  2. Painkiller

    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    I have a 10.5" that does everything. :o
     
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    including making you go deaf
     
  4. Clusive

    Clusive Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.

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    I'd build them both as midlengths provided they had a 16" barrel. I think the carbine gas system on a 16" gun is out of date. I love the upper I built with a cmmg lightweight mid barrel.
     
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    Supressors not legal in MO...yet...
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    I actually took it out this afternoon. I was blowing up claypigeons at 150 yards. :o
     
  8. KIDRR

    KIDRR Duck dog>* OT Supporter

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    I was trying to decide the same thing 6-7 months ago and just went with the Noveske N4 Lite in 14.5". I also got the better model with the rails and VIS for a couple hundred more. It's not worth the time and shopping around to save $50 IMO.
     
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    I break it down as 18"+ go with a rifle lenght gas system. The rifle lenght is the softest and flattest shooting. I really like the accuracy and versitility of the ammo out of a 18" and that is what I run.

    a 16" or 17" is sweet in a mid lenght gas system. I like how the mid lenght feels quicker than a rifle lenght but again more recoil

    I would not go with a carbine lenght gas system unless I was running a short 12-14" barrel. The carbine gas system has a lot more recoil. Now people are going to say "You wussie the 233 has very little recoil". This is true but when your rolling on the trigger with speed shredding the short range targets or looking through the scope and looking for your bullet impacts to make corrections on long range targets (3 gun) that extra recoil is a disadvantage.
     
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    The lower for the 14.5" will probably be an LMT with 2 stage trigger and SOPMOD. I already have a lower for the mid length.

    I should probably get the mid length first and get an SBR w/ supressor later on like yar mentioned. No need for a 14.5" w/ permanent FH.
     
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    There is a new trend with running a 14.5 w/ a 3" permenent compensator. I like this set up as you get a short handy rifle that can get out to 400 yards if you use the right ammo. The performance of the 55's are not that great and people are shooting 62gr's or heavier though them.

    I think my next rifle will be a 14.5 w/ 3" comp. Mostly as a short range rifle for those matches that are heavy CQB and don't go out past 200. Also it will be a lighter back up rifle. No point dragging out two 9lbs 18" rifles.
     
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    saxman Burninating the peasants

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    I'm quite happy with my midlength upper

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    why not get a 14.5" and a 20"?
     
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    That's what I'm going to do. I figured I'd just buy the Noveske complete since I don't have the most time to be building and researching AR's. I'll probably just get a 20" RRA sooner or later, I was going to get it a few months ago but I used the money for other toys.
     
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    What are the pro's and con's of a 10 or 12" rail for a mid length rail?
     
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    Not really sure I understand the right side ready mag. So you hit the mag button, take your hand off the grip, grab 20 rounder, and into the magwell. Seems slow, awkward, did I mention slow. I thought maybe the shooter was alefty but the mag release is a still right handed. Just doesn't make sense.
     
  19. Clusive

    Clusive Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.

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    Looks like he has the 20rder in the magwell with the 30 in the RediMag on the left side. :dunno:
     
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    and?

    Anyway, im having a mid length built when I sell one of my pistols.
     
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    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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