What to do... what to do...

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  1. DTR rex

    DTR rex New Member

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    I am faced with a bit of a dilemma here.

    Last spring I cut down for summer and lost a total of about 20lbs (a lot of water weight) and probably 4% b/f or so. Since July I have basically been maintaining and added about 10lbs, and I am getting really sick of it... feels like nothing is happening. Not losing fat, but not really gaining much muscle due to lower calories.

    Well, I was not totally satisfied with my cut last time, so I want to start earlier this time around, and here is where my question comes in:

    Would it be better to start cutting now, but take it slow and progressive and then get tougher with my cutting routine come feb./march? This will give me more time to cut, but I am afraid I am going to lose too much muscle with such a slow and prolonged cut.

    The second option would be to stop maintaining and go into a clean bulk and nearly double my calories from my cut and just lift heavy and try to put on mass. I would do this for about 2 months, and then around feb. start with a solid cutting diet and more cardio. This will allow me to pack on some more mass before my cut, but will also gain some fat and that will just add more for me to do when cut time comes around.

    Which is likely to be the best balance. I weary of a slow 5-6 month cut due to potential muscle loss.

    Oh yeah, before I get the whole "eat more n00b" or what not stuff:

    5' 9" 210lbs

    B: 415
    S: 500
    D: 550+
     
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    pics please.
     
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    michael FLORIDA > *

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    oh and do this one,

    "The second option would be to stop maintaining and go into a clean bulk and nearly double my calories from my cut and just lift heavy and try to put on mass. I would do this for about 2 months, and then around feb. start with a solid cutting diet and more cardio."
     
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    Clean bulk, but don't double calories
     
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    yeah would be interested what 210lbs @ 5% bf looks like at my height
     
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    that's what i was thinking
     
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    impressive numbers! pics??
     
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    kit99bar USPA Class 2, weak, old man!

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    holy crap you are strong.
     
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    Whoa! Who the fuck said anything about being 5% b/f :rofl::rofl:

    Good God, I wish! I said I "lost" about 20lbs and 4% b/f, lol.

    Anyways, Mike and Maine: Are you suggesting the bulk just because, or is there something backing this up? Do you think the prolonged "slow-going" cut is going to cause too much muscle loss?

    At this point I can:

    1) Start cutting now, but take it slow. Probably lose lots of muscle, but it will make the cutting easier.

    2) Clean bulk for a couple months, to peak on my strength and muscle gain, then come early spring, just do a hardcore, dedicated cut.
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    The slower you cut, the LESS muscle you lose.
     
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    DTR rex New Member

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    I have to keep my cals pretty low to see any significant difference though. I usually cut ~ 1800 cals and I am afraid I will lose too much muscle in a 6 month cut as opposed to a 3 month cut... and if I bulk now I can take advantage and build as much muscle as possible in the next couple months... but of course, set myself back a bit with some fat gains.

    I know you can help sustain muscle by slowly taking it down (1 month @ 2500 cals, 1 month @ 2200 cals, 1 month @ 2000, 1 month @ 1800) but last time I tried that I didn't get much accomplished until I got down to about 2,000 cals and then I started dropping weight and b/f pretty easily.

    You still think a slow cut is going to be best though?
     
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    Actually, I was suggesting you stick a needle full of test in your ass twice a week
     
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    Only if you administer the injections ;)
     
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