A&P What to charge Local bands?

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  1. ShadowWalker

    ShadowWalker New Member

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    I have been talking about shooting local bands live shows. Well I've gotten to a point where I need to start getting things chiseled out. I'm not going to be printing them, the pictures are mostly going to be for web use.

    I figure include cover for the show ($5-10 depending), but I'm not sure whether to charge per show, or per hour. The bands usually only play 30-45 minute sets because multiple bands chip in on renting the venue. So per show would be better I think. Then I have to figure in time spent post processing. I've never done anything for pay before, and would really like your help.

    Thanks:cool:
     
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    SpiderOnTheFloor New Member

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    side question: how will you be getting enough light for these shots? wide open or flash or what?
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    Are you friends with the band ?

    Are your results worth paying for or what you expect to charge ?

    :dunno:

    Equipment also makes an impression that can help you command whatever rates you ask for, but more importantly, examples of previous work :o
     
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    I am shooting my friends band (for free) to use in my portfolio as samples to other bands. I guess you could say I'm decent at what I do. I have a 300D with a few lenses and Sigma ef-500 dg super flash. I don't expect to make money really.
    I have a 50mm 1.8 as well as a flash (I am asking the individual bands if flash is ok before hand).

    I suppose I could just ask for coverage of the show, and some gas money.
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    do you have any sample pics ? :dunno:

    you could probably say local venues are covered free for transport (ie: include it in the base package/service price), but extended distances require cost of transport + food
     
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    I only have a few test shots so far from my friends practice. I was just trying to get exposure settings right and didn't worry about much else, although I got a nice still life out of one of them.
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    Like I said, these were just shots to get exposure down, and weren't looked at compostition wise too hard. i als had a screaming deaf kid running around and getting in the way.
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    it's good to remember that lights will be different at each and every show, some venues are roughly the same show after show -- this depends on the lighting crew

    lights for practice may not be on during showtime, yadda yadda

    you probably already know this :mamoru:
     
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    yeah, I should have clarified...I need to shoot my friends practice, but only like 2 people showed up so I just got some shots of my friend, and used them as test shots for exposure. I'm going back sometime this week to shoot the whole band.
     
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    :hsugh: keep in mind that for larger venues with lighting rigs and crews, the lights are not the same all the time

    what's more important than learning how to get one good exposure is to learn how to adapt with changing lighting
     
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    There won't be larger venues anytime soon. Its mainly local VFW's, American Legions, and Coffee houses. I know lighting changes from place to place, I just happened to be at the place and figured it'd save time when I go back.
     
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    stupid question but does a 300d look good enough (in general) to to the customer to shoot with or are most people looking for someone with 1d?
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    what matters most is the pictures that come afterwards, but what you hold in your hands when shooting does matter a bit too.

    appearance affects impressions

    if you are gonna get a 300d, get a black one :mamoru:
     
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    lens > body

    a 300D can take great pics
     
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    i have a 300d (silver....i don't give a shit) and it can take some damn good shots ..non-camera people don't know the difference between a 300d and a 20d..they are the same size and if you have a big lens on there i would assume they thing you know what you are doing....i guess taking good pics helps too ;)
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    sounds like something gayhawk would say :dunno:

    a customer is going to see the lens, the body and whatever else you brought.

    ghetto tricks are probably cool, ghetto gear normally isn't when they're paying you
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    a 50mm f/1.8 isn't a big lens :mamoru:
     
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    but it's fast!! :noes:
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    doesn't hide the silver greddyness
     
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    yeah a 300d and a 50mm f/1.8 can take damn fine shots...does it look as nice as a 20d? to the average person yes, does it look as nice as the 1d..obviously not
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    no, it doesn't :mamoru:

    it looks a lot like the rebel ti film cameras you buy at target for $200
     
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    i have a black film rebel..you saying that the 20d looks like that? to us it may look like shit but the fact is...no one really cares...i know i would hire the guy with the 300d to shoot my party over the guy with the 1d if his images were better
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    i'm saying the 300d digital rebel doesn't look very much different than a the consumer film rebel, both look quite different from the 20d, yadda yadda

    :riaa:
     
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    if you're only going to be shooting stuff for use on their website, I don't think they're gonna care that you have a 300D and not a 20D. sure, 8 MP > 6 MP, but they're not going to notice a huge difference with the resized pics unless they plan on putting the full size images on their site, which I doubt it.
     
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    not to be the king of nikon here, but the d2h would probably do best in teh darkness, just boost the ISO all the way and flash accordingly? That'd be stupid to rent lenses and a camera though.
     
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    :hsugh: it's not about megapixels :hsugh:
     

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