what the frig do you do when someone needs a windows reinstall?

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  1. piratepenguin

    piratepenguin New Member

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    a friend came to me with a broken laptop.

    windows vista home premium oem AUTHENTIC. can i download an iso, or what the fuck hoops does MS want me to go through?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    you use the cd that came with the machine, you silly llama.
     
  3. dissonance

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    and if said person doesn't have the disc, he/she can call up the manufacturer of the laptop and pay a small fee ($15 or so) and have them mailed to him/her.
     
  4. dorkultra

    dorkultra OT's resident crohns dude OT Supporter

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    install ubuntu and give it back to them :mamoru:
     
  5. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    If you have the serial number, you can get a disc through whatever channels you feel like.
    Torrents, borrow one, call the manufacturer, whatever.
    Obviously, it has to be the exact same version as the serial number.

    If you don't and the machine is still operable, then you can use a key finder to pull the serial out, then use the disc you get through whatever means.

    If the machine is not operable, and you don't have a serial number, you could try to put the hard drive in another computer, and use a key finder.
     
  6. dissonance

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    I'd use the manufacturer's discs only for a laptop. I am assuming it has some of those fancy laptop features that may be a bitch to get working without the proper files that would be on the manufacturers disc.

    I could be way off though, never had to reinstall Windows on a laptop yet.
     
  7. P07r0457

    P07r0457 New Member

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    having the "key" does not make it legal.

    a notebook *MUST* have the CoA attached to it's chassis. As a result, even if the hdd was completely replaced getting the legit key would simply be a matter of turning the laptop over.
     
  8. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    No one would ever be prosecuted for using another disc with your own legit serial number. Because the serial number is your license, and it's the license you pay for.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    on a consumer "license" it's the CoA that's important. Not really the # that's printed on it, but the physical CoA.
     
  10. Doomsday

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    recovery or setup disks for laptops has custom inf (Setup information) files specific for that brand and model.
    e.g. a dell one won't work with compaq or IBM.

    mostly, it's just for drivers and utilities though.

    nothing wrong with Doc brown's way as long as you can get the specific drivers for that laptop.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    you guys suck at reading.

    He's saying that you need to extract the serial# from the working OS install. I'm saying no. Because if the license is legit he has a CoA (one requires the other). That has nothing to do with the disc.
     
  12. Doomsday

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    it's an OEM license.
    the only thing important is you use that key ONLY on that specific machine.
     
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    correct, the very same fucking key that is on the CoA attached to that machine.


    idiots.
     
  14. Doomsday

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    sigh

    i was talking about the source of the setup disc, drivers and shit in that post.

    not about extracting the key or anything because you already addressed that issue before my post.
     
  15. trouphaz

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    ah, if you got a system from a legitimate source (say HP, Dell, etc) and it came with the OS pre-installed, then you have a valid license. there are some companies, like HP in particular, who do not provide an OS disk. instead they expect you to build a recovery disk which is only something to get you to the original build. if you have a legitimate license, then you can pull your key out.

    it is a license that you paid for and i don't care what BS that asshat potroast spouts, you can reuse it on that same computer if you get the media elsewhere.
     
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    I don't think P07 was arguing about the source of the media. if he is, he's wrong.

    I do know that he was addressing the 'extracting the key' part. which in truth is unnecessary, since the key is written in the COA,... usually a sticker somewhere in the chasis of the pc.

    although,.... if the 'extracted key' is the same as the one in the COA, it shouldn't matter right?
     
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    i was talking about the coa, duh. read my posts.
     
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    and we are talking about the source of the media.

    then you tell us we can't read? :ugh:
     
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    doc brown went senile and started blabbering about you gotta do this and you gotta do that to extract the key from software.


    coa nigga.
     
  20. trouphaz

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    if you can get the key from the software and it works, then you are all set. no other problems.
     
  21. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    When the windows genuine advantage tool installs on your pc during updates, it's not magically looking for the sticker.
    It's looking at the serial number. A legit serial makes the software legal.
    If the COA does also, then fine.
    But it's rubbish to say the serial is not legal if you retrieve it via software.
    I remember microsoft even used to show you where to find the serial in your registry.


    And the COA does not have to be on the bottom of a notebook, otherwise, HP wouldn't have this web page running.

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bpb11127&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=&product=500389&rule=40
     
  22. Doomsday

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    cmon doc, a pirated key or a hack that fools the WGA tool can make all that shit look legal. complete with updates too.

    but again, if the extracted key is the same as the key written in the COA, it shouldn't matter right? P07 is just overreacting.

    Office XP?

    anyway, if the notebook doesn't have the COA, i should be returned.
     
  23. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    :o
     
  24. 5Gen_Prelude

    5Gen_Prelude There might not be an "I" in the word "Team", but

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    I've had the CoA peel off after many years (my laptop with Windows 98 for example), so the extraction tool is useful in those cases.

    Mind you, I wipe all my machines and put our corp image on anyway.
     

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