MMA what makes Machida's karate so difficult to deal with?

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  1. elmocall911

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  2. Rojo Johnson

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    It's elusive.

    Nah I just always thought it was because he's so good at it. Kinda like how GSP's wrestling is difficult for guys to deal with???
     
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    southpaw style used at a distance is hard to attack

    kenny florian uses it also, but is a little more agressive
     
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    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    not to mention you have no one to train with that can prepare you to fight him. And he is training with one of the best MT guys in the sport.

    His preparation > *
     
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    He's very good at it and there isn't anyone else in MMA right now who uses karate, so he's kind of a dark horse. So no one really knows what it takes to beat him, and there's no one to train with who has his skill set.
     
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    He has a points fighting sort of style, has good footwork and uses distance well.
     
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    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    Does he actually spar with Silva? That'd be a hard style to deal with since he stays outside of kicks.
     
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    he's quick, elusive, and picks his spots. he never seems to do anything unplanned or reckless. controlled, smart, quick.

    i don't know, just my opinion.
     
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    this. his stick and move style frustrates people because he doesnt ever just try to go for the big one. he slowly bates you in with his frustrating style
     
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    spacing..people can't outstrike him from the outside.. you can't get in on him and tito couldn't wrestle him.. maybe a much better wrestler can impose his style
     
  11. elmocall911

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    the only thing he lacks is combinations and the ability to fight in the pocket.
     
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    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    wat, that's exactly what he does. He may not be in a traditional in-fight "pocket" but to his range and abilities he is.
     
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    GSP is a karate guy so maybe he will help rashad get ready for lyoto

    Either way his karate stance and movements are not very common in MMA and make it a style thats hard to deal with. Different sometimes = harder to deal with
     
  14. Killyin

    Killyin Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies.

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    Why stand in the pocket and take shots when you can hit and hop out?

    The more he tags and pops out of strike range, the more he frustrates the guy he is fighting...and eventually they make a mistake or get upset.
     
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    I think a part of it is the fact that a lot of people in MMA "take turns" when they fight, because that is how they spar. i.e. one guy will attack, the other will cover, and then they switch. When a guy thinks its his turn, Lyoto either moves out of range, or steps in quickly and cuts in when the guy is not expecting it and it really seems to mess with a lot of people's timing.
     
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    Ghost of Swayze Ofcourse you mad

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    Machida just has great timing/movement along with power to his strikes
     
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    They use different styles of karate.

    Machida is shotokan and GSP is kyokushin.
     
  18. elmocall911

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    that's actually a really good point i never thought of. there's rhythm to fighting, and machida breaks it.
     
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    not to bust your bubble or anything but the completeness of his game is what makes him (and gsp) hard to deal with. Very little of that is "karate". Machida is strong for his weight, can make transitions from striking to takedowns very quickly, and is threatening from basically anywhere.
     
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    Yeah it really doesnt have much to do with his 'karate style', he's just fucken good lol. He's really fast, strong, extremely talented in every area of MMA, and most of all he's amazing at reading his opponent and throwing them off their game.
     
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    Well he states that his karate is his primary influence in his fighting style...

    I don't know too much about striking but its not your classical boxing or kickboxing or even MT stance that he uses... so i am going to assume its a karate stance :p

    karate ftw
     
  22. Killyin

    Killyin Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies.

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    It is a typical Karate stance, yes.

    I fight like that...:o
     
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    nice, how long ya being doing karate for. I always wanted to learn but there never was a good school near me. operative word being good :p
     
  24. Killyin

    Killyin Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies.

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    I started Karate as a kid. I trained in a shotokan variant, then straight shotokan. I worked my way up to brown belt before I broke my shoulder/knee cap and stopped training. Now I'm having a go at BJJ :)

    One of the things I enjoy about BJJ is that we can roll and "spar" at the end of class and walk away without any marks (gi rash?!). With Karate we never really sparred as hard as we should have.
     
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    I don't agree with you. Almost all of his stand up movements, angles, attacks, standing sweeps, and pushing with his hands, is shotokan.
     

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