Discussion in 'On Topic' started by P-chan, Apr 8, 2009.
What do you consider an "assault rifle"?
anything with a barrel shroud.
It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
ANYTHING THAT SHOOTS A BULLET
i dont think any rifle should be termed "assault rifle"
I'd say we have a good start here, except what's a "battle rifle"?
So would a select-fire M4 shooting .223 be an "assault rifle"?
battle rifle as in a garand
An AR-10 would be a battle rifle
any rifle that can kill someone
an assault rifle is a rifle that HAS BEEN USED to assault a person.
Who the hell knows anyways?
Anything with a happy switch.
Well, IMO a battle rifle (sometimes called main battle rifle) doesnt have to be fully auto since they have a longer range.
It's assulted it's fair share of shit.
Full auto. Low to medium power round. Designed for close combat conditions. Full auto. Full auto.
a rifle with a select fire capability, either burst or full auto.
Let's break it down
assault - to make someone afraid that you're going to hit them (not to be confused with battery - to actually hit someone)
rifle - gun with a stock
assault rifle would be a gun that would cause someone to believe that they will be shot. Perhaps a gun that is scary, but is incapable of actually firing. A rifle that was scary but that you could actually fire would be a "battery rifle."
Anything that's black and takes one of them banana clips.
Or anything made by those dirty commies.
The term is politically loaded, so it's meaningless.
The technical meaning is as posted. Essentially most rifles chambered in 7.62x39/5.56x45/5.45x39/etc that are magazine fed with select-fire and in use by major militaries. Battle rifles are chambered in full-power rifle centerfire cartridges and are magazine-fed (not necessarily detechable) and can have any number of actions.
The interpretation in the popular media is now to the point that any semi-auto rifle with a profile not as clean as the hunting rifles of a century ago is an "assault weapon." Note that any rifle with a scope (or doesn't look like an "assault weapon" but has a bore diameter >= 0.30") is now a "high-powered (sniper) rifle."
I generally refer to AR's, AK's, FAL's, CETME's/G3's, Mini-14/30s, SKS's (and derivatives of all) as such. I'd rather take 15 seconds to explain the term and make them think about it than use the dumb term "assault rifle" and instantly lose the person I'm talking to because their assumptions about the term overwhelm their thought processes.
Even if I have to explain that my AR-15 is the semi-automatic version of the M16/M4 (yes, the rifles in use by the military) and the person I'm talking to is somewhat anti-ish, a negative emotional reaction takes longer to occur if at all, is not as intense, and the odds of the person forming an instant negative opinion are lower.
Eh, IMHO Battle Rifle denotes full power round (.30 caliber on up, well, including some 6.5s, with a case length in the 50+mm range), but leaves operation (bolt/semi etc) out of it. I wouldn't count ANY FA as a 'Battle Rifle'.
ie: Standard infantry rifle from the introduction of smokeless powder up to about the end of WWII.
It is a made up term so politicians have something to blame when shit goes bad and rally against.
It's not a made up term. Politicians just use it wrong.
When I got my 91/59 they kept asking me if I was crazy or intended to use it for crime.
I looked at the mosin and looked at them and went "really? All the guns I could buy I am going to rob a bank or store with a mosin?"
Just just laughed and said touche
As soon as they take ahold of something, it becomes made up or at least wrong IMO. As least colloquial.
Same with Steroids, hardly ever used right so it sort of loses its context.