GUN What is the law about shipping firearms?

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  1. Crossett

    Crossett New Member

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    If I sell one to somebody in a different state can I just take it to a UPS store in it's case and have them ship it?

    My 5" RIA is probably going to be for sale for $250 if any of you are interested.

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  2. jeri534

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    I think you have to ship it overnight for handguns.
     
  3. chakup

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    No UPS store- need to go to an actual hub. Don't know if that's law or their policy. Both UPS and FedEx require overnight. You must ship it to an FFL, good idea to have a copy in hand first. Also make sure the FFL will receive guns from non-ffl holders.
     
  4. Crossett

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    I was afraid there would be a bunch of bullshit like that :mad:

    Maybe a WMDer in/around austin will see this :hs:
     
  5. striker754

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    nice gun. id buy it if i was old enough. everything with shipping is pretty much policy of company. only thing is no mail for handguns
     
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    looks like a good deal. I was thinking about getting a 1911. Seems like everyone should own at least one.
     
  7. vettefan52

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    cant ship handguns.
     
  8. striker754

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    out of curiosity how much ammo has been fed to is? I don't see almost any wear and tear on it.
     
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    So, you are selling a Rock Island Armory 1911 for $250?

    Just toss that bitch in a box and send it to me. I would never rat anyone out for not shipping to an FFL. :o
     
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    Can't mail firearms except to or from an FFL.

    The only exception to this is an allowance by the USPS, you are able to mail a weapon to yourself (i.e. you purchase it while on vacation, you can send it to yourself at your home address).


    That being said ... I'm going to be in San Antonio next weekend (traveling through Austin) and I might be interested in picking up another 1911 ;)
     
  13. Crossett

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    I don't want to :(

    not having emergency funds > me

    i'll be putting my psp up on ebay tomorrow as well.
     
  14. Crossett

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    as in a couple days or a week and a couple days?
     
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    wrong again. you can ship normal firearms to anyone in your state if your state allows it.
     
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    Driving to SA on thurs feb1 and coming back sun feb4. You need to get rid of it before then?
     
  17. Crossett

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    I'm not sure yet. Once I know for certain that i'm going to sell it the sooner it goes the better.
     
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    I'd like to see how this would be accomplished. I realize that you are referencing the ATF FAQ on firearms shipping, but the problem is how to actually get someone to do this.

    -The USPS says you can't ship handguns (besides the exception I mentioned) and you must use a contract carrier.
    -UPS says you must have a letter on record stating that you are an 'authorized firearms shipper' (i.e. FFL holder, manufacturer, etc...)
    -FedEx will only allow handguns to/from an 'authorized shipper' as well (again ... FFL, manufacturer, etc...), and those must be dismantled and rendered inoperable. It also must be shipped overnight/express.
    -DHL/Airborne will not accept firearms/ammo under any circumstances (unless their policy has recently changed).

    So Federal law says you can ship it within your state, but you'll have a hell of a time actually getting it done without violating "someone's" policy.
     
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    I never said you could get around their policies. I just said it was possible to ship to someone other than an ffl.
     
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    so why are you selling it without even firing it once?
     
  21. Crossett

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    need quick cash, hopefully I wont have to sell it but it's not looking that way.

    i havent owned it all that long, and just never got around to taking it to the range
     
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    I'd be interested if it was a Commander or Officer model. :hs:
     
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    If I lived there I'd probably buy it just to screw with...$250's cheap.

    Anyway to ship to someone in another state:
    The gun has to go to a FFL. Alot of FFL's won't send non FFL's a copy of their license because of fraud concerns. You can get their license number and verify the shipping address at https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/

    Box the firearm up at home and print the shipping label to save yourself the time and hassle. Only FFL's can ship handguns by USPS so lets say you're going to use UPS or Fedex. Federal law is fine with this and as long as the gun is going to a FFL you aren't even required by law to disclose that a firearm is in the box. Both companies have corporate policies that require you do though, and also require overnight shipping...once again by company policy, not law.

    Thats where things get interesting. You can pay $60 to ship the handgun overnight from a UPS hub and know you're following UPS policy, or you can pay $10 to ship it ground if you don't tell the nice person behind the counter there's a gun in the box. Obviously if the package is lost and you didn't follow company policy for overnight shipping they're going to hassle you if you try to make a claim. On the other hand if the package is truly lost there should be no dispute that your $300 box of machine parts was actually a gun or it wouldn't be lost.

    To me its an easy call for $40 on a gun worth $250 but it all depends on how concerned you are about following UPS policy that goes beyond the requirements of the law. Ymmv.
     
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    Crap for $250... :eek:
     

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