MMA What is a practical martial art?

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  1. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    Kung Fu and Tae Kwon Doe are far too sporty. What martial arts can be used (or rather, not used ;)) in the street?
     
  2. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    Oh ya? So let me ask you ... have you ever had to use that on someone?

    Btw there's no n00b sticky.
     
  3. JordanClarkson

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    run-jitsu is by far the most effective method there is for the street
     
  4. JordanClarkson

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    but if you are cornered, muay thai or bjj ftw
     
  5. JohnJohnJohnson

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    why are those better than run-jitsu if you are cornered?

    also, why is run-jitsu better if you are not cornered?
     
  6. d0nk3ypunch

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    Any martial art that lets you train realistically against resisting opponents will be effective.

    Most martial arts have no contact at all, and any self defense drills are trained from unlikely situations like wrist grabs.

    Most people will say bjj and mt because together they form a complete fighting system and are trained in such a way that when you need to use it on the street, you are already used to using it in the gym.
     
  7. JordanClarkson

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    because if you are not cornered, you can run :mamoru:
     
  8. JohnJohnJohnson

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    bjj and mt then, thx folks
     
  9. Placebo

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    I've heard good things about Krav Maga and the like if you find a good school.
     
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    fixed.
     
  11. Ivy Mike

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    From the little training I've had in Krav Maga, I'd say it is very practical.

    You use normal, instinctual strikes and stances. There are no katas to learn, no belt system, no specific techniques or combinations. You are really fighting on the fly just as you would in a real fight. The focus is on causing as much harm to the person as possible without prolonging the fight.

    Now, you stand a much better chance of finding a good BJJ school or Muay Thai school than you do a good Krav Maga school. KM focuses a lot of its time on conditioning. Normally, this system is taught to soldiers (it was developed in Israel for the Israeli army) who are already in excellent shape. A lot of schools have really turned KM into a glorified aerobics class. Not good for anything much beyond trimming weight from you. NOT helpful in real life unless you are gonna use your physical fitness to assist you in running away.

    No matter what you decide to take, go in and talk to the instructor(s) Spend a little time reading and studying. Go back in and observe a class. If the school doesn't allow you to observe, then turn right around and leave.
    The most important thing is mindset and training. You can work on the mindset anytime. The training however, you have to be present for and is arguably the hardest part. It hurts, its exhausting and sometimes it isn't much fun.
    It is, however, vitally important should you ever need to put a martial arts system into practice. You do not rise to the occasion, you fall back on your training.
     
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    Bruised Lee John Kune Do, puncher of faces

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    at my dojo we incorporate stuff from a guy named Tony Blauer's "SPEAR/PDR" system for "in teh street" self defense. He has some really cool techniques for training your flinch mechanism to be useful, as well as control of fear reactivity and dealing with adrenaline dumps, etc etc. All his stuff is based in actual scientific research about the way your body and nervous system work, and everything is about training realisticly and having situational awareness.

    I think it's good stuff, not your run of the mill "kick em in the balls and run away" style self defense.
     
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    Krav Maga
     
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    but i'd rather run than get stabbed like newton or murray
     
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    these will all give you something that most martial arts and self defense systems lack, live training and full resistance, and occasional full contact. however "1N T3H STR33T" there are actually a few other variables that only training in a sport environment can leave you lacking.

    however let me restate that a base in solid, alive training is far more important than minutae of whether you train to throw palms if you don't have gloves on, or to use your ground control knowledge to get to position of dominance immediately so you can assess the situation, etc etc.

    If you don't train with resistance all the theoritical self defence in the world won't save you, but knowing that you shouldn't try to stand and box with someone or go for the armbar on the street, or even how to avoid going into tunnel vision mode in case he's got buddies, are all useful additions to an alive training regimen.
     
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    Someone needs to make a noob sticky thread. I call chechen for mod :eek3:
     
  18. brolli

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    In the street you don't want to fight a random thug, the chances that you will get stabbed/hurt are really high. But in terms one on one unarmed combat brazilian jiu jitsu, wrestling, mt, and boxing would be your best bet.
     
  19. Dietrich

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    If you're concerned about realistic self defense, I think Combat Kick Boxing is a pretty good book, written by a guy called Pat O'Keefe. It attempts to bridge the gap between kickboxing and streetfighting, with plenty of 'real life' scenarios to consider.

    Tom
     
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    gun-jitsu has been proven to be much more effective
     
  21. DOHChi

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    thats my favorite. gang-jutsu also is very effective
     

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