GUN What is a better bullet?

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  1. reman

    reman New Member

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    So I have an ongoing debate with a guy that says a fragmenting bullet will be better in putting down a person or thing. I say the best bullet is an expanding one such as the Barnes bullet in Corbon DPX ammo and Federal Hydrashok. He says:


    :rofl:

    :ugh: Reminds me about that SKS story in the media.

    What do you guys think is a better bullet?
     
  2. crazybenf

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    deepest penetration + largest expansion is what I look for.

    fed hst / ranger t / corbon dpx / etc.
     
  3. PanzerAce

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    rofl at him saying 7.62x39 will yaw, thats the 5.45 :rofl:

    guys sounds like a giant fucking douche and an armchair commando.
     
  4. 7

    7 First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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    :werd:

    thats basically what you want when shooting any living thing
     
  5. 7

    7 First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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    I forgot you have to worry about over penetration :mamoru: I'm used to hunting bullets :o Also, I want this book:
    http://www.riflebullets.net/

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Keesh

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    7.62x39 will yaw, it just usually penetrates about 8 inches before it starts to yaw. 5.45 will yaw twice in about the time a 7.62 round will yaw once. There's some Yugo stuff that is significantly better and should yaw ~4 inches or so IIRC.
     
  7. PanzerAce

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    orly? I thought it was just the 5.45. I remember that there was a gel test picture for these rounds, but I don't remember what it actually looked like.
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    someone PM him this thread
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    Allthatshit
     
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    http://www.firearmstactical.com/hwfe.htm if you want to know why fragmentation in handgun rounds is bad

    Even handgun rounds can yaw, it just doesn't always result in fragmentation like you get from 5.56
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    With regards to rifles, fragmentation is better than nothing since thats all the military can do with fmj rounds. Ballistic experts though tell non-military people to load their rifles up with jsps for a reason. See http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=78;t=001244

    And if you have a handgun that wont feed jhps you need to get a gun that works properly.
     
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    • Cartridge, Caliber .50, Armor-Piercing-Incendiary, M8
    This cartridge is used, in place of the armor piercing round, against armored, flammable targets. The bullet is colored with silver tip.
     
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    1BadZ Uber :Aug2000: GM Nazi

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    I agree. You choose a round based on what you're shooting at. Thats why I was shopping for a bolt action rifle, the guys behind the counter asked me what I was going to be hunting, then decide what round was best for the job.
     
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    Out of curiosity, what were you hunting and what did they recommend?
     
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    Sounds like this idiot uses Extreme Shock Ammo FTL.

    Also Hydrashoks are FTL as well just listen to all Doc has to say on them.
     
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    [​IMG]

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    Either one is going to ruin someones day.
     
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  16. Paul Revere

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    [​IMG]

    Wolf Military Classic HPs are my HD round of choice though.
     
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    Exactly.

    Same. HPs are great.
     
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    that wasn't the one I was thinking of, but DAMN. To bad that doesn't have the diff b/w the temp and perm cavity though.

    and in for pics of 7.62x54R through the gel.
     
  20. Keesh

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    148gr Czech Silver Tip FMJ
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    203gr Brown Bear JSP

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    105gr Igman JSP
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    180gr Winchester JSP
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    where do you find this shit?
     
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    I like to save interesting pictures and websites I find. There's a couple guys that do tests like this on some AK forums that I read. I have pictures upon pictures of this kind of stuff saved :o

    http://www.brassfetcher.com/index.html has a lot of good gel tests. The pics arn't the best but you can get the general idea.
     
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  25. reman

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    Thanks for all the replies and help. :)
     

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