"What Every Skinny Guy Should Know" by Pook

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  1. Tiberium

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    5 Month Update on page 7 post # 167
    http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=3101477&page=7

















    OK...first of all, I copied this from a forum which copied it from another forum so I do not know how to contact the original author.

    Second, I have broken down the weight classes described below into ratios which (I assume) would give a better represention of YOUR proper weight class... the ratio is found by simply dividing "desired weight" by "your height"

    eg the original author is 6'3" (75 inches)...I am 5'8" (68 inches) barefoot...ratio matching will (in theory) tell you what weight you need be at in order to achieve similar results...I started the my scale at 145 lbs because that's what I'm at now (I started lifting at about 120 lbs...yes I know...I have a small frame)....
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    What every skinny guy should know...
    By Pook

    Smart, fun, and interesting. So why is it that all the beautiful women always seem out of your grasp?

    Why!? You may even be athletic. You can do karate, can run super fast around the track, along with other things. So why does it seem you can get the average to cute girls but the very attractive women seem out of your reach?

    What is holding you back is that you are skinny.

    “But I like being skinny,” you say. “Look at all those fat people!” Indeed. “Those guys who go to the gym and all are just idiots.”

    There was an article in the Atlantic Constitution that said how average women marry skinny guys over big guys. It also said… why am I parroting? Let the
    article speak for itself:

    Quote:
    "When women are choosing mates - except for very attractive women -- they're facing a tradeoff of choosing a guy who's very sexy or one who will stick around and treat them well," he added.

    It is self-evident that beautiful women end up with the masculine men, in other words, NOT skinny guys like you.

    I know… I can hear what the objections you’re saying… because I used to make them. It seemed so ‘jock like’ and is ‘below you’.

    I have gained over 50+ pounds of muscle mass. There is a saying that when skinny guys get big, when they look in the mirror, they still see the skinny guy. This is true, as my ‘skinny mind’ hasn’t yet caught up with my body.

    Let me tell you of the change of reactions I got from the women:

    For your reading pleasure,

    Fat Girl = Means a big girl that requires an elephant gun.

    Ugly Girl = In the same category as Fat Girl. These girls may not be fat, but it hurts to look at them.

    Average Girl = They don’t hurt your eyes, but they aren’t amazing enough to attract your eyes. Average girls are the plain Janes.

    Cute Girls = Often, they are innocent average girls whose innocence makes them cute. They are a bit picky about who they end up with as they are inexperienced.

    Very Attractive = Great curves, long luscious hair, nice everything. These women know they are very attractive and sometimes narcissistically wear outfits to reflect it.

    Very Beautiful = Bombshell. Every guy will notice this girl and stare and gawk. You know one of these women are around by seeing the satellites of boys trying to be ‘friends’ with them. Guys fear these magnificent creatures.

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    I started out around 155 pounds at 6’3 height. This meant that I was very skinny. I was also considered a nice looking guy. Women loved me being tall.

    At this point, I had to deal with a lot of fat chicks hitting on me. These girls were BIG and I wanted nothing to do with them. Ugly girls also would come to me. This was me not doing anything. This was what my body was attracting all alone. If I wanted to get a cuter girl, I had to work for it.

    I have problems talking to women, not because I am scared or boring, but because I sense the women think I am ‘below’ them. And the truth is that they do.

    I date average women.

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    Already, things have changed. The fat/ugly women still go for me but they don’t think I’m as easy. They want to enter oneitis with me. The ‘unworthy’ girls category would now all be staring at me. To the beautiful women, I’m just a typical guy. Cute girls now enjoy talking to me.

    I still date average women and now some cute women

    175

    “You are looking very good,” my older female manager told me. The fat/ugly women no longer hit on me (thank goodness!) and people (out of the blue) are asking why I don’t have a girlfriend. Average girls are beginning to stare.

    I date only cute women with some very attractive ones mixed in.

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    Average girls are now hitting on me. Very attractive women are checking me out. At this stage, every woman is happy to talk to me. They all secretly wonder if I’m gay.

    I date more very attractive women but still have the cute ones.

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    OK, when you don’t have a girlfriend at this stage, the ladies will whisper, “Is he gay?” all the time. One girl got bold about it and asked me point blankly, “Pook, you are cute and all. So why don’t you have a girlfriend?” I was stunned by her bluntness (rare among women).

    Average women consider me out of their league. Cute ones try to become my ‘friend’.
    I date only very attractive women. Beautiful women are still a bit of an anomalie.

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    When you get to this stage, something very strange happens. All the attention and staring women gave you is gone (mostly). Ugly/Fat women will despise you as will the average women. Most girls will be scared of you (cute girls, very attractive girls)

    Let me give you some examples. One Very Beautiful girl was in several of my classes. I start talking to her and she has plenty of time to leave. But she doesn’t… she stays to keep talking to me. The girls now notice me, but are a bit scared to talk and act around me.

    One cute girl is like a leech to me in one of my classes. She must sit right next to me, must ‘borrow my notes’, must talk to me 20 minutes after class everyday…

    One Very Beautiful woman was a fitness instructor at my gym (think ‘well muscled’ with nice strong legs (those strong thighs come in handy with her dealings with the Pook-man!)). Every time I saw this girl, she always had a ‘satellite’ boy around her. Who does she end up with? Me.

    Or the ultimate example: there was a girl I was in oneitis that drove me to this webpage. As I got bigger, her reactions to me changed as well. At 155, I was ‘average’. At 175, she knew something was up. I got her at 195.

    Now I date some Very Attractive women but most are Very Beautiful Women.

    I know many of you guys are saying the same thing, “I get beautiful women too and I am skinny!” But the thing is, all these examples here is based on attraction on the body alone. I am NOT working to get these women. My body is doing 99% of the attracting. I can just be a statue and get a response. (But of course, you have to take action. This is based on doing zilch.)

    Rather than work hard to get one woman, why not work hard on yourself and get all the women? I don’t work hard to get women, I work hard on my dreams which gets the women automatically.

    Like the article says on top, only the extremely beautiful women will risk being with a hunk like you. If you want a girl with a great body, you ought to work on your own body.

    Coming from a skinny guy, being big is a totally different world. The worst thing is finding out how people really viewed the old you. People now openly insult my past skinny self and it hurts. It hurts because I never knew they had thought that way of me. Clothes no longer hang on my body properly, but I look terrific naked (I am saying this for the mental imagery of our lovely lady readers).

    Big guys are allowed to get away with more things. I allowed to be cruder, to be bolder, to take advantage of women more (I’m serious!), and so on. You can also be stupid as well. My biggest problem is women only wanting me for sex (no, this is not a joke. Yes, it is a problem). You try to find a girl that fits your life and all she is interested in is your body! It is like getting rich and putting up with gold diggers.

    So how do you go from being skinny guy to brawny guy? There is a lot of information on the Internet. Diesel’s Guide to Bulking Up threads in the Health Forum is a start. For myself, I used Anthony Ellis’s
    program. 30lbs in 3 months, no joke. Though, for most people beginning, it will be like 30lbs in 4-5 months. The big problem with fitness is that there are so many different opinions. Many of them are wrong and will waste your time (including trainers). What I loved about Ellis’s program was that it cut all the hype and came up with very in-depth information. It works.

    However, the risk with body building is that it can turn into a highly narcissist womb. I often think the mirrors in the gyms are not so much to perfect the form, but to perfect the ego. The risk is that you will try to become perfect and we all know that perfect is boring.

    Now for a note to the skinny guys who are successful with women. They will, no doubt, post replies to challenge the relevancy of this post. Know that the central… thrust… of the post is not a bettering of image. It is an increase of testosterone. If you are naturally skinny, and are at a higher muscle mass, your body will continually be at a high state of testosterone building and rebuilding muscle mass just to stay the same. High rates of testosterone affects not only your actions, I believe women can sniff it out. So take a guy, stuffed with testosterone, and push him into a room full of lovely young ladies. He doesn’t speak a word. He won’t have to. The women will go to him automatically.

    Such is the power of testosterone. Such is the power of sexuality.
     
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    Cliffs: Skinny = You lose
     
  3. BradUF

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    I know this might be a stupid question but is it eaiser for a tall non skinny guy to lose weight and bulk compared to a skinny guy? I have been eating 1800 cal every day for over a month + exercise and have only lost 2 pounds.
     
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    Examine your diet better and lift weights.
     
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    :werd: Elite Lamer, I would browse around in the F & N forum and ask a few questions but I'm pretty sure that Lifting 4 times per week and Cardio 3 times per week would do you good.
     
  7. BradUF

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    I am [FONT=Helvetica,Arial][FONT=Helvetica,Arial][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]Mesomorph Body type. I used to have no stomach at all but I gained weight slowly over lazy summer's since I never worked out or did any exercise at all for years and now I can't loose it.

    Lifting weights wont do anything really, I need to do cardio first but it is going so slow.I know when you lose weight you burn away muscle at the same time and the approach I have choosen is all cardio. From my understanding though it is 80% diet and 20% exercise. So even if I am slacking on cardio a bit, which I don't think I am, I still should lose weight regardless. Also, eventhough I am Messomoporh but I could never see my self having a jock body type at all.
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    I love skinny guys. I think being overly muscular is disgusitng. And I sort of hate fat people. (read: really hate)
    But i have odd tastes.
     
  9. Yail Bloor

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    According to the article, your love of skinny guys puts you in the fat girl or ugly girl category.

    I want to point out that some skinny guys are exceptions to this.

    Every skinny guy I have ever seen who attracted hot women had very broad shoulders.

    I have a friend who is like 6' 155 lbs but he has very broad shoulders, and he dates women in the 8-10 range.
     
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    this is the stupidest shit i've ever skimmed. looks are the most overrated factor in getting a girl to have sex with you. Granted, if you're a fat slob or entirely emaciated, that just shows you don't know how to take care of yourself and will turn off any girl, but beyond keeping up good health, looks are one of the unimportant factors in getting women. That is, unless your entire game is based on picking up girls who are uglier than you are. In which case, please, please, take them all.
     
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    So, when I skimmed all that, I thought "that stuff really only matters if you're concerned about getting as many women as possible".

    Anyone who knows me or has seen my pic knows that I am not anywhere near an athletic build...yet do I care? Not really. I have confidence in myself and know that I can get a good woman.

    I mean, yeah, I may not be able to walk into a room and get all the women's eyes on me, but that doesn't bother me.

    So, after reading that, don't assume that you can't get quality women if you don't fall in the ideal weight class.
     
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    pretty close to it. and for the ammount that it is true, "in shape = get more chicks" is pretty obvious :dunno:
     
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    Believe whatever you please.... I do not feel that is my duty to convince you that this information is best for you, I am merely presenting it.
     
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    My bestfriend and I :love: lean guys. Muscular guys turn me off. My friend Christine loves brawny guys, so she teases me that the guys I like are too skinny :mamoru:

    example:
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    edit: I don't consider myself or my friend to be neither fat nor ugly.
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    Commendable effort
    Try again.

    http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-2/1242189/Photo10.jpg

    Edit: Link not Work safe.

    5'6 110lbs. I dont post face pics...so feel free to assume im hideous.
    I am however, told consistantly by strangers (men and women) that i'm stunning.

    EDITx2= also to be found in FS post your private parts...I however cannont find the page
     
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    great breasts, what size are those
     
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    A lot of it depends on the guys face though. If a guy has a hot face then he'll get hot chicks whether he's skinny or broly. If he has an average face then he may need the extra muscles to get the hot chicks.
     
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    Werd. Its sort of like how men love a good hip to waist ratio. I've always been the guy that was unapproachable for women. For a LONG time I thought girls didn't like me because they never came and talked to me. Turns out, they were too intimidated because of my looks. I also have very broad shoulders and a skinny waist. V taper FTW.
     
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    dude that is god stuff, were like the same height and i weigh like 175. When i was like 160-165 that catergory related to me now im 175 im getting those people out of the blue asking why i dont have a gf, dead on.
     
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    i'm a guy and i personally frown upon the 'skinny guy' but to say they cant get chicks or if they were just a tad bulkier they would pull more is just plain bullshit

    i know tons of hot chicks who are into tall skinny guys, they would refuse to be w/ a tall buff/cut/athletic/muscular guy, has to be skinny

    also some people just plain look weird if they dont fit their frame
     
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    Nobody is saying the skinny guy can't get chicks.

    What the article is saying is that when the skinny guy gains muscle mass, he becomes more attractive to more women.
     
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    To be fair though, we probably have different definitions of what is "best for men".
     
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    If you don't believe its possible, then its not possible.

    I would be willing to bet that you aren't exercising at a high enough intensity.

    The whole time I was losing weight (close to 60 pounds), I rarely exceeded 15 minutes of cardio in a session. The trick is that you have to always increase your intensity from the previous session.

    I used a treadmill and noted how far I went in 15 minutes. Then the next session I would push myself to go farther in the same period of time. This is the type of exercise that forces your body to adapt.

    If you always do a workout that your body is capable of without pushing yourself, your body has no reason to adapt.

    Other than that, eat clean (no sugar, no flour) and eat often. And drink lots of water. I drank up to 3 gallons of it per day.

    I started out in horrible shape. I had a 40 inch waist and couldn't jog more than 30 feet without being out of breath. I had no muscle mass.

    The first day I hit the treadmill, I could barely jog at all. I would jog until I was out of breath, then walk until I recovered, then jog again.

    It would have been easy to get discouraged, but I really hated the way I had become and I knew I had to change.

    I also started lifting weights not long after, but I didn't get really serious about weight lifting until later on.

    I got down to 150 lbs (which is WAY too skinny for my body). I wasn't even that cut up because I still had loose skin and some fat left.

    Girls wanted nothing to do with me at 150 lbs. My shoulders are not naturally broad. Waist was 30 at this weight.

    Gradually over time I've been able to put on muscle. Unfortunately, I've also gained some fat. I hit 200 lbs recently, but my gut got big and I was stretching my size 34 pants bigtime. Now I'm about 185 and my 34's fit very nice.

    When I got to about 190, every single girl I work with started to ask me "Have you been working out?" even though I talk about weight lifting so they have to know about it. Even some of the guys started to say something.

    I get way more attention from women at my current size than I did when I looked like humpty dumpty (40 inch waist), or when I was too skinny. Even when I was in the 165 range I didn't get near the reactions I get now. And I'm not even that ripped or big.

    I plan on getting down to a 32 before I try to gain more muscle. My eventual goal is 225 lbs with a 30 or 32 waist. I know its going to take a lot of time.

    Luckily, a lot of time is exactly what I have.
     

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