MMA What do you guys think of this MMA I started doing? v.Kiseidokai

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  1. Girder_Shade

    Girder_Shade OT Supporter

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    I actually started doing MMA a few weeks ago, shit is ballin.

    Ki Sei Do Kai
    Incorporates Boxing, Freestyle Tae Kwon Do and Aikido. :cool:

    http://www.kiseidokai.com.au/nav_page_1.htm
     
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    Sounds like BS, where in QLD do you live?
     
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    So far I've been very impressed with what I've learnt/seen.
    The Renshi is awesome and seems very intelligent with all the drills we do plus we do alot of bag work and sparring.

    The blackbelts sparring are impressive, kinda like the shit you see in the UFC with lots of punches, ground and pounds, grapples, etc stuff like that.
     
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    Ahh ok, mate If you are happy with it and you learn stick with it and have fun.
     
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    thanks. yeah ill stick with this and see how things turn out.

    I've done a few years shotokan karate and then ninjutsu and havent really been impressed by what i've done, this however is alot more interesting so maybe its the right one.

    I wonder what all the other guys on here would recommend on which styles they would choose if they could set up their own mma?

    Maybe thai boxing, jujutsu and judo? :bowdown:
     
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    lol ninjitsu
     
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    yeah it wasnt very good, too technical and didnt seem to equate well into real life fighting.

    I honestly thought i'd be doing backflips and running up walls though. :o :mamoru:
     
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    ninjitsu doesn't exist. it's made up bullshit.
     
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    Sounds like they don't have very much (or any) real grappling.
     
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    bujinkan ninjutsu/budo taijutsu is what I did for a few weeks. what are you trying to say?
     
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    well from what I know so far, theres a bit but its not the main focus.
    good or bad, I'm not sure but everything else seems to be good. :hsd:
     
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    Sorry, it just doesn't sound very good at all. That isn't MMA.
     
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    Could you please explain a bit more?
    I'm not sure whats wrong with it and why its not MMA when it uses 3 different styles of fighting. :hs:

    Theres more info on the link at the top of the page, says a fair bit about what I'll end up learning.
     
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    MMA doesn't mean a mix of martial arts.

    Its the opposite of TMA, its real fighting.

    Taekwondo isn't real.

    Aikdo isn't real.

    Thai boxing, wrestling and bjj are real.

    Its a sport where the others are an art form.

    One is pretty, one gets the job done.
     
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    Just because it's 3 styles doesn't make it MMA. MMA = the sport of mixed martial arts. You need to learn a real grappling style, along with striking, and transitions (takedowns from wrestling, judo, etc). Your style doesn't spar until higher levels? Black belt? Doesn't learn throws or "restraining techniques" (wtf does that mean) until higher belt levels either. Sounds like a TMA trying to cash in on MMA. It's not too bad if that's what you're looking for, but it's not MMA.
     
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    Let me know when you are in Brisbane next Ill take you to an MMA gym for comparisons sake.
     
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    Oh ok I understand now.
    I hope its effective though, cause I want to be able to fight well if I ever need to defend myself. I'm not looking to become a cage fighter if that is what you think I implied.

    What is TMA anyway?
     
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    Damn I was in brisbane last month broseph.
    But I might be back before the end of the year. :wavey:
     
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    Traditional Martial Art... Karate, Aikido, Kung Fu, etc.

    I always recommend people to try out the "free class" at multiple gyms to make sure they find exactly what they are looking for. Sucks to sign a long contract at a place to find out it isn't what you wanted.

    And not wanting to be a cage fighter is fine. The majority of people who train MMA don't fight. I've fought once just because it was fun for me. But I prefer it for better conditioning and I personally think it is the best for self defense unless you want to train for weapons as well.
     
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    That what you took was bullshit
     
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    Yeah I might keep a look out but I dont think we have anything like that here in my hometown since its relatively small population.
    Would that TMA be effective though?

    I mean it does use boxing which is good, tae kwon do I'm not so sure but it seems to use alot of different fighting techniques even though the instructor has told me its not by the book because it doesnt use the normal stances and other rubbish which isnt very useful in a street fight.

    Aikido I have no idea how effective that is, only that its something similar to judo except not as deadly.
     
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    Cool let me know, my advice would be to find a BJJ gym.
     

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