GUN What do you guys think for this? v. NFA is bs.

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  1. striker754

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    I think I'm way too poor to challenge uncle sam in court
     
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    Its 250 dollars to bring a case to court. Donations would raise that easily.

    Im not too familiar with the courts, but there is not a fee for time during hearing the case correct?

    ANd if a gun loving lawyer will step up and help out...
     
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    A gun loving lawyer would have to step up and help out. You'd get eaten alive without someone who knew how to fight back.
     
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    Of course if you're poorly represented and defeated you've set a terrible precedent.
     
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    From my point of view, the NFA has to be overturned if the Supreme Court is to go along with previous Supreme Court rulings. The previous SC ruled that there is no military use in SBS and SBR when that is a blatent lie by the US govt. We can see that today with the M4.
     
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    and that'll take more than $250
     
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    So is he complaining about what to do if you didn't get your CLEO sign off?
     
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    No thats me that posted on ar15.com

    I want the NFA gone, and following Supreme Court ruling in Miller, the NFA should be ruled unconstitutional.

    You'd figure that a gun loving lawyer would want to help out for free or cheap.
     
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    lets leave the NFA alone, I think most of us are ok with paying another 200 bucks for a FA weapon. what we should be doing FIRST is making it so that fullautos really are only about 200 bucks more than a semi.
     
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    Ah, so you like taking in the rear from the govt? Cool. I'm glad you are ok with a restrictive gun control bullshit law from 1934. Even though it should be overturned, I don't really know if machine guns have a chance. Although, the entire NFA was overturned by a lower court in the Miller case.

    Besides, you can't own them anyways, you live in CA :fawk:
     
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    To bad the lazy shits never showed up to the Supreme Court.
     
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    I really don't have a problem with the NFA, i think it's a good way to regulate more dangerous weapons from the average joe, but instead of the state regulating which weapons on the NFA are allowed in your state, i think it should be federal. I also think that instead of fighting the NFA, we should fight the 1986 import ban, and the amnesty clause that took place around the same time. The problem with NFA weapons is that they're so damn expensive, and they're so damn expensive because there's only so many in circulation. I think we should repeal the amnesty clause and the import ban.
     
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    I'm more concerned about getting rid of the 1986 MG ban and the import ban (was that 1989?). I wouldn't mind the NFA that much if they just did something to make the approval process alot faster.
     
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    Ah yes. Good thinking, except that it doesnt work. JOE SCHMO CAN MAKE ANY NFA WEAPON IN HIS GARAGE. If you want to go on a killing spree with a short barrelled rifle, all you have to do is take 15 seconds and cut the fucking barrel off. Want to make a machine gun? Tons of plans on the internet. SBS? Cut the barrel off.

    Control laws don't do shit. Make the laws similar to using a firearm in a drug related crime. Give someone an extra 40 years for using a firearm in ANY crime.

    Its quite disturbing that most of you don't mind the NFA.
     
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    That's a good point.

    I think the NFA needs to be changed to ban saws and other metal cutting devices unless you're licensed for them.
     
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    No laws work. But they help in trying to prevent dangerous/illegal/etc outcomes.
     
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    Notrly. If you are going to commit the crime, who cares about another law?

    It prevented the North Hollywood Shootout right?
     
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    Isn't that kinda what I just said?
     
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    You said they help in preventing dangerous outcomes. They don't.
     
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    Maybe you missed the "try", and I wouldn't have said "No laws work"
     
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    :) :o
     
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    Even with "trying" in there it sounds like you are agreeing the laws work.
     
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    Well then what is a law doing? Surely it's not gonna stop everything fom happening that's a given. But it's their in trying to be a deterent.
     
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    "there"

    We already have enough gun laws to make all the criminal activities with them that harm other people illegal.

    There are laws for robbing a store with a gun. Laws for shooting someone with a gun.

    The laws for just having an SBR is trying to prevent stuff it's not going to prevent. You think the common criminal gives a shit about some law for an SBR? If it's there just so they get a longer jail sentence, then just make the laws for using a gun in a crime require longer jail time.

    A law abiding citizen with an SBR isn't going to hurt anyone. A criminal with a legal length rifle will hurt someone.
     

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