What buffer (or kit) should I buy?

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  1. Evan

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    I searched around and saw that flex thing but its 300 bucks.
    Then someone was talking about the meguiars thing so I did a quick google search and found this http://www.autodetailingsolutions.net/g110-kit-1.html
    I had a porter cable a few years ago and that was pretty cool but it was 125 bucks for just the buffer.
    Any tips/advice?
     
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    The Flex will have the most correction ability. The G110 is a small step above a PC but they also aren't very reliable. I'm on my third one. Meguiars has been great about swapping them out but it is still a pain in the ass when it dies on you in the middle of a detail.

    You might want to hold off until the new PC is out. 4.5 amp motor instead of the original's 3.7 and the G110's 4.2.

    Should be out in a month: http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424xp.html
     
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    But es so pricey :hs:
     
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    When it comes to the Flex -- trust me on this -- it is WAY worth it. I still have my original 8 year old G100A and it was just starting to show signs of wearing out. Given that Meguiar's would end up replacing it with a G110 and I didn't like the sound of the reliability problems I opted to buy a Flex... I fell in love almost instantly.

    Just the way the machine feels and runs you can tell it's a MUCH more powerful machine, and the results back it up. I figure I'll be using it probably 80-90% of the time now. I still have and use a rotary on occasion, but I find myself breaking it out even less often than I was before. The G100A has been downgraded to LSP application duty only now for me, or just as a backup/spare.
     
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    Too bad they don't have any estimation of what the pricing will be; that would be helpful I'd think. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing/hearing how people like these compared to the G100/UDM, G100A, and Flex.... :noes:
     
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    I got a new UDM a few weeks back and am loving it.
     
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    Pricing on the 7424XP will be around the same as the current 7424 ($129.99) and all Autogeek's kits will be offered with the new model.
     
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    Awesome :eek3:

    Can't say I'm too surprised by that though; the old 7424 has been around for a LONG time... a revamp was in order anyway.

    Here's to hoping Meguiar's goes back to the PC instead of the G110.... maybe it's time for the G120 so I can trade my G100 on one? :x:
     
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    but its like 300 dollars, which I don't have to spend on that
     
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    Then wait a month and get the new version of the PC. It will have the most power you can get without having to pop for a Flex.
     
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    :werd: That new PC is going to be some SERIOUS bang for the buck. I went for the Flex mainly because since I detail for profit, my equipment pays for itself fairly quick and the time savings are a huge help. Otherwise a new PC would've been my weapon of choice.
     
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    So don't waste money on the meguiars thing?
     
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    The G110? Personally I wouldn't touch one with a 10' pole; but I'm harder than a lot of people on my equipment. Seeing the reliability problems folks have reported with it and/or the UDM I wouldn't want to chance it failing on me in the middle of a detail.

    The PC and Flex have been much more proven performers, so I'd trust the "new" PC even just based on the company and the old model's track record.
     
  14. Evan

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    I would be using it once a month or so
    I don't want to get back in the business, it would just be for myself and helping friends out once in awhile
     
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    First G110 I got broke halfway through the 2nd detail....Earliest I've ever had a PC give out is at the 18 month point.
     
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    Why not love for the Makita? I love my mine
     
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    You talking about a rotary or a DA buffer? Evan is wants a DA.
     
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    rotary
     
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    I have a UDM and like it, but it seems like my hands vibrate like crazy after using it
     
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    The rotarys are harder to use and are more likely to burn paint right?
     
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    Yes...if you start with a DA, jumping into a rotary isn't that big of a deal. You really need to just get the feel of using a polisher first, and you'll probably want to finish with the DA anyways so it's not like you'll be wasting money by getting a DA first. Rotary usage is a bit different in that you need to learn which directions to angle the pad to avoid burning paint, how to hold it on certain curves to stop the pad from skipping, etc. It just takes a little experience...a junkyard fender helps a lot.
     
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    Harder to use, yes. More likely to burn paint? Maybe. Yet to burn paint with either. As long as you tape off the trim, keep the rotary moving and ease up a bit on edges you should be fine. The hard part is the rotary wants to pull you all over the place the first few time you use it. Once you get it down and learn how to properly use 3M Ultrafina to finish out, you will get results superior to a PC. However, using a rotary tends to be more time consuming. You have to tape off the car, you usually need to at least do two polishing steps (more likely 3+) and since you can get more correction, you tend to shoot for perfection which can be very time consuming.
     
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    k I got my buffer, what pads/product do I need to buy?
     
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    lake country CCS pads, optimum products
     
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    Excellent, goof-proof combo. The new Optimum Polishes (Compound II, Polish II and Finish) are really good.
     

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