Welp, party tonight, and that means....

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  1. Guld

    Guld 昇龍拳

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    Drinking. I'm trying to cut and I was wondering what the best choice would be for tonight. I'm not going anywhere near a beer. I was thinking vodka with a diet coke mix. Does that sound like the best option? Anyone have any better ideas?
     
  2. N-Word-Jim

    N-Word-Jim Cure for boredom

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    sounds like a good combo to me.
     
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    actually, youre best bet would be a michelob ultra (its mostly water) or if you choose another crap light beer keep it to a minimum.

    there is a ton of alcoholic sugar in vodka & other liquors/spirits.

    luckily, im a hardgainer & so ill just chill with scotch all night.
     
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    Chris3G Bullshark Testosterone

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    vodka and coke :wtf:
     
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    Vailripper Daywalkers have feelings too.

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    I thought vodka has no calories?

    Regardless, straight shots ftw if its vodka, doesn't taste THAT bad.

    EDIT: http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item.php?item_id=14051&size=2

    64 calories per shot, doesn't seem too bad. :dunno: besides the alcohol anyway...
     
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    N-Word-Jim Cure for boredom

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    G'damn This should have been the first fucking post just so no retard posted it... too late

    ALCOHOL IS A CALORIE
     
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    Chris3G Bullshark Testosterone

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    alcoholic sugar? Alcohol contains 7 calories per gram. Since there is about the same amount of alcohol in one drink made with vodka and one beer, they both have the same amount of cals from the alcohol. Then the beer has additional carbohydrate calories. If you mix the hard liquor with a diet mixer, then the only calories you get are from the alcohol, making the vodka a better choice.
     
  8. Neo95gt

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    gin and tonic
     
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    alcohol enema
     
  10. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    might as well not work out
     
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    Not to sounds like a dick or anything, but..................................


    If you are cutting, and you want to be dedicated, then dont fucking drink! It pisses me off when people are cutting and they are like "oh, I cant eat that, too much fat... cant eat that, too many cal's, cant eat that it has empty cal's, etc..."

    Yet, when its time to go to club, car, party, they have no problem drinking tons of alcohal and getting drunk :ugh:
    I dont understand why it is so hard for people to have a good time without getting drunk.

    Anyways, if you must drink, it will not matter if you stick to vodka and coke as opposed to beer. Cal's coming in will remain relatively the same and either way, it is still empty cal's. On the rare occasion that I have a couple drinks it will usually not be beer though... More likely a captain and diet coke or something along those lines. If you have to drink, just keep it moderate and do not get all shitty and overdrink.
     
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    Look into GHB :noes:
     
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    i've always been told a shot of (insert any liquor here) is about the equivelent of a beer. i don't know if that's true and i'm really not concerned enough to put the effort into researching it.

    when i go out and feel like drinking, i always just get vodka and sugar free red bull, whiskey and water, or just shots.

    whenever i drink beer it's coors light, which is ~110 calories per 12 oz. everything with less calories than that has tasted like shit to me.
     
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    :rofl:

    a light beer and a shot have the same amount of calories in them besides like the 4 grams or so of carbs/beer so a beer is about 16 more cals than a shot is
     
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    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    no fuckin shit...this pisses me off having to tell people this
     
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    Dunken Welcome to the team.

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    get a new hobby, lifting isnt for you ;x
     
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    Pshhhh, fuck you. :rofl:
    Party was a bust so I didn't end up drinking anything. Please explain to me the adverse effects of the consumption of alcohol on the development of muscles.
     
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    Guld 昇龍拳

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    I am fully aware of the calories in alcohol and I accounted for everything I would have drank; I still would have been under.
     
  20. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    How about these:

    1. Significantly reduces testesterone for days afterward
    2. Directly inhibits protein synthesis
    3. Increases cortisol
    4. Reduces growth hormone
    5. Increases estrogen levels
    6. Reduces REM sleep
    7. Causes dehydration
     
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    Implications For Athletes


    Alcohol is particularly detrimental for athletes as it interferes with many of the processes so vital to success (3,5). Focus, performance, recovery and rebuilding are all affected. Given that alcohol's effects can linger on for days an athlete would be wise to refrain from its use when competing.

    Although alcohol is absorbed rapidly it is metabolized very slowly and its effects may still impact athletic performance up to 48 hours after the last drink.

    Assuming the athlete is performing within 48 hours of its consumption, as little as two to three standard drinks can directly:

    Decrease strength

    Impair reaction time

    Impair balance and eye/hand coordination

    Impair fine motor and gross motor coordination

    Increase fatigue: Liver function is significantly impacted following the ingestion of alcohol. Up to 48 hours after the last drink the liver may still be metabolizing alcohol at the expense of glycogen (metabolized carbohydrate).
    Given that glycogen is vital for most of the body's cellular functions, body fatigue, cognitive decline and loss of strength will result when it cannot be used efficiently. Reaction time, balance, coordination are also impacted by this process in addition to the direct aforementioned neurochemical effects alcohol has on the brain.


    Interfere with body temperature regulation

    Cause dehydration: Alcohol has an impact on kidney function, which interferes with the regulation of electrolytes and fluids in the body (7). Cellular waste removal and nutrient supply are the main functions of fluid and electrolytes, which are controlled through kidney function.
    The kidneys filter large amounts of water from many parts of the body, including the brain, to break down alcohol. This causes dehydration and can cripple an athletes performance.


    Deplete aerobic capacity and negatively impact endurance for up to 48 hours after the last drink

    Impact cellular repair: Protein metabolism is negatively impacted when alcohol is in the system. This has obvious implications for muscle repair.

    Impacts the cardiovascular system: Alcohol consumption raises blood pressure and this can result in the heart having work harder to pump blood through the body (8). An abnormally fast heart beat (tachycardia) can also result from alcohol consumption. Further, alcohol increases the synthesis of cholesterol and this can increase the risk of coronary heart disease.

    Disrupt sleep: Alcohol significantly interferes with restful sleep (4). It can make falling to sleep easier to begin with due to its sedative effects but the quality of sleep (particularly rapid eye movement) will be disturbed.

    Cause vitamin and mineral depletion: Vitamins and minerals so necessary for our health have their absorption interfered with, while the body's own supply are slowly depleted, when alcohol is consumed. Even one or two drinks per day (supposedly the "recommended" amount) can have this effect. B vitamins, which have important enzymatic and metabolic functions are depleted extra rapidly (8).
    This deleteriously effects the heart, liver, thyroid and kidneys. Vitamin A is also depleted and this interferes with the body's ability to fight disease. Vitamin C depletion makes one susceptible to anemia. Also, when alcohol is ingested the body excretes calcium at twice the normal rate, thus impacting on bone growth and wound healing.


    Cause cognitive impairment: cognitive impairment (disruption of thought processes and brain damage) occur through a number of mechanisms (6,7). Alcohol related sleep disruption contributes to the insufficient restoration of ones neural processes. The effects of GABA-A stimulation, as explained, have been shown to contribute to neural death.
    Lack of glycogen to the brain, as a result of alcohol metabolism, causes slow, disoriented, thinking. These are just some factors. There are many more. The implications of cognitive impairment are severe for athletes: loss of motivation, focus and desire in addition to lessened perspicacity and even neuromuscular response.

    The effects outlined here are just some of the more obvious ones. There are many others, and it would probably take a book to outline and explain them in sufficient detail.


    Conclusion


    Even though alcohol will greatly impact performance 25 to 48 hours after the last drink, it has longer lasting, more indirect, effects. The reduction in quality of training and sleep in the period after its consumption, may cause a reduction in performance over the days following this period.

    So it is probably best to stay away from alcohol completely when training and competing to win. Indeed, the only real way to avoid alcohol's effects is to refrain from its use completely.

    References

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    Aguayo LG. Ethanol potentiates the GABAA activates Cl- currents in mouse hippocampal and cortical neurons. Eur J Pharmacol 1990;187:127-130.
    Bloomfield, J. Fricker, P.A. & Fitch, K.D.(1992). Textbook of Science and Medicine in Sport. Blackwell Scientific Publications: Australia.
    Walsh J K. Sedative effects of ethanol at night. Journal of Study on Alcohol, 1991, 6, pp. 597-600.
    Burke, L.(1992). The Complete Guide to Food for Sports Performance. Allen and Unwin: Australia.
    Dodes. L. M.(2002).The Heart of Addiction: A New Approach to Understanding and Managing Alcoholism and Other Addictive Behaviors: Quill, USA.
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    Science in Africa.(2004). Alcohol and the Inevitable Hangover From Over Consumption. [On line] http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2001/december/drinks.htm
     
  22. Guld

    Guld 昇龍拳

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    I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
     
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    Ceaze to the resuce!
     
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    Okay, so is the one jack and coke i had at 2:00 AM Saturday gonna make my 5:00 PM workout on friday worthless, or do you need to get more than one drink in your system for it to really hurt you?
     
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