i was wondering if it ever would, and for the last 5 years the answer was NO wtf... poking around in IE, a "true vector internet service has stopped" window opens - click ok to restart it, attempt to load a page, it crashes again ad infini attempt to ping outside results in nuttin doin, yet i can vnc to any pc on my LAN, and they can get out eventually uninstalled zap, still can't get out set ip to dhcp,and *ding* back to the 'net AH HA, i figure, so i reinstall za, get back to the desktop and everything seems faster cool! for 10 pages... then, back to the same error popup finally, i've just uninstalled it and there it is i'll have to go do a manual uninstall to make sure i get all the bits n pieces left over though but it's more like 10 times OH NOES!!!111!11122onetwo!!!122 i gots noes fireweall! OMG!!!!!111 teh h4ck3r5 aer gonna get mee!!!!