Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Buzz Killington, Oct 11, 2009.
Too many paragraphs to repost.
I read that. Basically 2 guns went down, then they spend the rest of the article rehashing old "these guns must be kept really clean" crap.
I have an upper that I am wanting to replace. Maybe I'll do a sand/mud test and see how it does.
Very true...just shooting for a refresher in kuwait we had about 10 out of 45 rifles seize up and have to be cleaned...
shoulda started picking up Aks from the dead attackers
it was 1 of 2 problems (or maybe 2 of 2 problems):
1) the gas tubes were not cleaned at regular intervals
2) no larue
The army just needs to develop self-cleaning weapons.
Amusingly, that's how the original M16s were presented to the troops (despite Colt never saying that to the brass).
"This rifle is self-cleaning, that's why we didn't give you a cleaning kit!"
The gas system is indeed self-cleaning, just...not the rest. Of course, by the time any info came down to grunt level, it was all twisted around and wrong.
Sounds like maybe it's not crap.
Or maybe the troops whose rifles failed HADN'T been keeping them clean or lubed properly?
You know, the same reason that the M16A1 had teething problems in Vietnam: Lack of PMCS, lubrication, proper training on maintenance.
Um, that's what I said. If the guns aren't kept really clean, they don't work. Unlike their Russian counterparts.
It's pretty well known that the main issue is lubrication, not necessarily keeping the gun spotless.
Just lube it up extra! Coat all the internals in oil!
How often does an AK malfunction because it wasn't lubed?
From the same article...
Let's compare apples to oranges.
ive seen vids of people shooting AKs until the handguards catch on fire. probably would be as equally hard to use one in that condition, right?
You're right. A rifle that soldiers depend on on the battlefield is completely different from a rifle that soldiers depend on on the battlefield.
Yes, they have different designs. One fails in battle, and the other doesn't. That's sort of my point.
When the handguards caught on fire did they jam?
I fired my mini-14 until the stock melted. But it kept firing.
thats different, thats a mercy killing
you're taking those news articles to be worth a damn though? "it got hot...so ummm it jammed" well great diagnosis there professor
You really need to shoot more AK's if you think they are infallible. I've seen several choke, and I'm sure anyone who hangs out in the competition/training circles has seen more.
As I said elsewhere, I'll put money down that this article somehow ties back to HK.