Watercooling v. Is it worth it?

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  1. VladTemplar

    VladTemplar New Member

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    I've been looking into water cooling for my next build, but I've been wondering if it's worth it. I don't trust myself enough with a Dremel on an expensive case to do all the cutting and running of wires and tubes so I've been looking at cases that have all the work done.

    I figure I'd probably want to cool the CPU, GPU, and the Northbridge, but if it's advisable I'd do memory as well.

    Pretty much planning for a Quad-core setup coupled with a GT or GTS. I haven't decided if I'm going to go with DDR3 or not yet, but regardless I plan on some overclocking. The cost of a Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme heatsink just made me think that I might as well look at watercooling while I'm at it.

    Thanks for the input
     
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    water on the GPU and northbridge are the only things that would be worth watercooling, and even then it is definitely only worthwhile if you are going to heavilly O/C everything
     
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    overall i'd personally say it isn't worth doing
     
  4. DAN513

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    If you're planning on running a peltier disc or something like that in conjunction with water cooling to help with a massive overclock, then yes, otherwise, you can get just as good temps with air.
     
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    Watercooling only works if the radiator has more surface area than your CPU, GPU, and chipset heatsinks combined. If you can't fit a radiator that big into your case (or you aren't willing to put a standalone radiator next to your case), then you won't see any benefit.

    Since there is always a comparison to car watercooling, I'll go ahead and nip that one in the bud: as anyone who's ever had a car overheat in a traffic jam knows, all the watercooler in a car does is store heat safely until the car picks up speed (i.e. more airflow) and can dissipate that heat later.
     
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    car radiators always have a couple of fans on them...
     
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    A car with a properly working cooling system will never overheat in traffic. A heat exchanger is not a heat sink.
     
  8. Doomsday

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    a good water cooled system should give you the benefits of lower temps than air cooling and are more quiet (no buzzing sound from fans).

    it also expandable, so you can cool more components (nb, sb, mosfets, vid cards, etc) more efficiently.

    obviously, a setup like that are for high overclockers and hardcore gamers.

    stock speeds and moderate overclocking,... stick to air.
     
  9. Bitter Moose

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    The benefits of an air cooled system are greater than those of a water cooled imo.
     
  10. lowfat

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    Completely disagree there.

    Watercooling NB = completely useless.

    Watercooling GPU = not as worthless, but the gain is small.

    Watercooling a CPU is where the biggest gain would be from.
     
  11. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    tell me the biggest advantage air has over water besides cost?
     
  12. Doomsday

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    The higher the FSB means more load to the NB.
    This is the main problem of most nforce boards. Their NBs runs very hot.
    For the oc to be stable, they need to cool the NB.

    For moderate ocs, it's not necessary, but you are wrong if you say it's useless.
     
  13. Bitter Moose

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    1. I said it was my opinion.
    2. Do I really need to list all the things that make watercooling a hassle? (I hope not, and I'm not going too).
    3. If you have to ask about watercooling (thread starter); you should just stay away.
     
  14. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    How you actually seen an increase in overclockability when watercooling a northbridge? Most stock northbridge heatsinks are good enough these days.
     
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    For high overclocks, you need to increase voltage on vcore, ram, MCH/NB, ICH, etc. for the OC to be stable.

    More voltage = more heat.

    Obviously, the higher you push, the hotter it gets.

    active cooling (waterblock or heatsink w/fan) > passive cooling (stock heat pipes/heatsink)
    NB water block which is cooler, silent, and low profile > heatsink w/ a little fan that is noisy, breaks often, and most of the time gets in the way of video cards because of it's height/size/high profile.
     
  16. Supernaut

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    I've had good and bad experiences with watercooling, overall not worth it IMO unless you are into extreme overclocking and willing to spend that much money for a few more MHz.
     
  17. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    If computers are overclocking are a hobby to you, then go ahead and buy a watercooling system. If not, do not waste your time or money.
     
  18. deusexaethera

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    Cliffs, right there. The cost/benefit ratio just isn't there for anything other than a hobbyist, because the biggest benefit to having watercooling is the bragging rights.
     

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