GUN Wait, you means bans dont work :hsugh:

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  1. PanzerAce

    PanzerAce Active Member

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    http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.1217778.0.0.php

     
  2. t1h

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    cliffs?
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    Many things may have changed since my working-class youth, but I am certain that one piece of logic persists. If he is armed, you had better be armed too. Knives become swords, swords become pistols. Status, respect and "security" follow.
     
  4. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    At least one guy has come to his senses. I'm assuming a security state is what we'd call a police state.:dunno:
     
  5. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    Just a bit of hand-wringing going on in that op-ed.
     
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    Not really...I think all he is saying is "The ban isn't working, guns are still getting in here, so what do we have to do to stop it?" Because he asks that question at the very end. :dunno:


    That or it's just some drunk Scot rambling on about shit, and he doesn't even know what he's saying.
     
  7. Shiva Chaos

    Shiva Chaos i see boobies!

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    let's make this legible, shall we?
     
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    That's the one of the worst written articles I've ever read in my lifetime. :ugh:

    This guy's some important journalist somewhere?
     
  9. DaJMan

    DaJMan When i was young, i dreamed of being a baseball

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    *interestingly* written... but i like the point he's making!

    the only problem the UK has now is that if they were to decide to make guns legal again then a mix of outrage (from the antis), fear (from the antis and moderates), and mob mentality (of the *extreme* pro-guns and criminals) will take over and make things worse than they are now.
     
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    The thing with bans is that once they are passed (in the middle of the night without public consultation) they can never be lifted.

    I don't know what he's trying to say really.

    Gun bans don't work. But he doesn't want to see a proliferation of guns.

    So what are we left with?
     
  11. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    The author is hinting at utopia, revealing its flaws, yet still pitching utopia as the solution! The utopian concept is what socialism hints at - a peaceful and prosperous world where everyone follows the rules, everyone is satisfied, and the overhead of rule enforcement is not necessary. Trouble is it doesn't work so well in fiction, nevermind reality. A single barbarian or non-conditioned outsider could demolish a utopian society thats too set in its ways.

    How do you argue with such people? The author demolished his own ideal of a gun-free society with the ruthless mechanisms of reality that he has observed yet still clings to the ideal. Insanity. And to think that there are nations of people that think like that...
     

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