I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this thread, but what sparked it was from this forum, so here goes... This Thread started me thinking, or rather has simply brought up old thoughts of the past. Is saving yourself for marriage really worth it? Is emotional connection a prerequisite of sex? The original poster of the thread linked above states that his girlfriend's only rule is no vaginal/penile intercourse, as she is wanting to save herself for marriage, yet is willing to do things that "normal" people would consider depraved, reprehensible behavior. To the original poster of that thread, it is not my intention to call you out in any way shape or form. Your thread was merely a convenient example. I can only assume that "saving yourself for marriage" is based on religious grounds of morality, which is indicitive of a purity of soul. With that being the grounds, would not buttsex, blowjobs, facials, handjobs, fisting, and all around carnal depravity excluding only the coupling of two organs that are meant by design to go together rather cancel out any "moral purity?" In my book, sex is just sex. It's fun, and as long as both (or all) parties involved know and understand the risks and side effects, then there's no reason not to engage in it. There is no prerequisite emotional connection, nor moral code to restrict such activity. Marriage isn't a requirement, that's just dogmatic bullshit imposed by ancient power-hungry tyrants, who rarely practiced what they preached. If you're going to go anywhere at all, then you minus whale be prepared to go through with EVERYTHING. On the overall scale of human sexuality, from simple holding hands, to the most depraved shit anyone on the planet has ever conceived, (and in the internet age, we've all learned that there seem to be no limits at all whatsoever to this), simple sexual intercourse is pretty far down the scale.