? v. Waterbury - Total Strength program

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  1. ericande

    ericande Active Member

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    I've been reading Muscle Revolution by Waterbury and I think in a few more months (after doing WS4SB) I'm going to the TSP combining focus on deadlift and bench press. Has anyone done these programs? Did you make solid gains in strength, mass or both? Thoughts after doing it?

    I should add I'm more interested in strength not hypertrophy. My long-term goal is to total 1200 with my weight under 180.
     
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    I wouldn't do any of Chad's stuff unless you have great recovery, unless you feel like cutting the volume down quite a bit. I liked his total body training when I was first starting out, but some of the routines he has out there are a bit much for a natural.
     
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    I've done a couple of his 10x3 programs

    They are VERY tough workouts, but you get amazing results.

    First week:
    10x3 of about 80% of your 1RM
    Second week
    10x4 of the same weight
    Third Week
    10x5 of the same weight

    So by the end of it you are doing 20 more reps with the same weight.

    You are also doing more than one exercise in the workout, like this:
    3 reps bench press
    3 reps dumbell rows
    3 reps bench
    3 reps dumbell rows
    etc etc etc until you have reached 10x3 for both

    It gets absolutely brutal around the 7-8th sets
     
  4. ericande

    ericande Active Member

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    I seem to be recovering from most workouts pretty well and by the time I start this I'll have 7 months of very consistant workouts so I'm going to give it a shot.
     
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    10x3 10x3 10x3!!
     
  6. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    10x3 for basketball
    10x3 for flexibility
    10x3 for marathon runners
    10x3 for fat loss
    10x3 for synchronized swimmers
    10x3 for biologists
     
  7. ericande

    ericande Active Member

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    These are the two I'm interested in.

    But seriously Ceaze, you seem to know what you are talking about even though you usually just hurt my feelings. Is his TSP program good or shitty in your opinion?
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    BarbaraWaltersPegleg Irish Guido

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    Made quite the impression on holmes here.
     
  10. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    never read it....maybe someone at bodyrecomposition.com has
     
  11. Mike McDermott

    Mike McDermott It's evolution, baby. OT Supporter

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    waterbury sucks :hs:
     
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    explain why? Theres a guy over on ls2.com swinging all over his nuts. Saying Total body workouts are best and bodybuilding splits are for "stupid" people.
     
  13. Marix

    Marix OT Supporter

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    To be honest, IMO, for the vast majority of people: Lifting heavy weights 2-3x a week Lifting heavier weights the next week Adjusting your diet accordingly will give results. I'm sure that you'd see results if you divided it up by body part or push/pull or full body or any other crazy combination.
     
  14. onslaught61

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    Waterbury recently posted a new article on t-nation answering the question of how HE personally trains, compared to all his preaching. He seems to focus more on total reps as opposed to sets/reps and a lot of other stuff, check it out.

    EDIT: wfs here it is: http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1843320
     
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