GUN USMC-Glock 37 rumor

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  1. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    So, the USMC is rumored to have taken delivery of 10,000 Glock 37 pistols in .45GAP caliber.

    What do we all think about this rumor?

    Is it false?

    Assuming it is true, what do you think are the advantages the USMC wants it for?
     
  2. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    Personally, i'd stop short of calling it false, but have a tough time giving any good reasons why it would be true.

    From what i see, the caliber doesn't offer much of any advantage over what's already available. Though perhaps better energy transfer, it seems very much like a thicker .40SW.
     
  3. Jago

    Jago It helps if you hit it.

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    they were low on hand grenades? :dunno: :mamoru:
     
  4. SS109

    SS109 3100 FPS OT Supporter

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    Ammo consistency is why I call BS on this rumour. Imagine the re-supply problems in the heat of battle? 9mm, .45, .45GAP, what do we send them?
    I would believe a normal .45 Glock before I would believe the the U.S. military is buying the .45GAP.
     
  5. footratfunkface

    footratfunkface New Member

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    that, and the low ammo capacity, make me not believe it. i could believe they bought 21's, but not 36's or 37's.
     
  6. Platinum_Thunder

    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    no, i think the 37's were just designed as a smoke grenade, not a fragmentation grenade.
     
  8. GlocksRock

    GlocksRock Glock > You

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    :madfawk: to all you Glock haters :squint:
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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  10. Furner

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    arent they having a shitty time with the berettas in the sandbox?
     
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    footratfunkface New Member

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    what's .40 going to do in a military setting, where they can't use hollow points? except lower the number of available rounds. and when you're using FMJ's in a pistol, you're going to want as many rounds as possible.
     
  12. Possum Stomper

    Possum Stomper The Great Bird of the Galaxy

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    then why the huge controversy over 9mm vs. .45 in a military application?
    (just curious, not trying to start anything)
     
  13. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    When you're using FMJs, you want a larger cross section for more efficient energy transfer without the need for deformation. Which is why the people in the military who spend the most time shooting tend to favor the .45.

    .40 would be a pretty ideal balance of caliber and capacity, IMO.
     
  14. Furner

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    From what I heard, 9mm ball dosnt do much against an enraged Iraqi fighting for Allah.
     
  15. Vatoloco

    Vatoloco In a pinch, though, you could jam it into someone'

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    My recruiter told me that they were going back to the .45. I doubt he really knows though and besides if they were "going back" then it would be .45ACP.
     
  16. Possum Stomper

    Possum Stomper The Great Bird of the Galaxy

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    is the M9 really that bad? :wtc:
     
  17. Furner

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    its not all the gun, but the ammo
     
  18. Possum Stomper

    Possum Stomper The Great Bird of the Galaxy

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    anyone else think it might be fair to allow pistol ammo to be exempt from the FMJ only rule?
     
  19. footratfunkface

    footratfunkface New Member

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    i think all ammo ought to be exempt from the expanding or fragmenting bullet restriction. we never signed anything, we just voluntarily abide by it. it's bullshit. firearms are meant to incapacitate your enemy so as to remove him from the fight. if the bullet tickles him to death, who the fuck cares, so long as he's out of the fight. if it makes him turn purple and puke his guts out before he keels over and dies, i don't give a fuck, so long as he's not shooting back. that whole "unnecessary suffering" thing doesn't really apply when you're shot. they're already suffering, and they're not going to notice if the bullet expanded when it made them suffer. you, however, will notice if they don't suffer enough so as to incapacitate them.
     
  20. Possum Stomper

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  21. Letifo

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    AK47 rounds are hollow point are they not? Every round i've ever seen is.
     
  22. footratfunkface

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    no, you can get FMJ (the most common), soft points, or jacketed HP rounds in 7.62x39.
     

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