A&P umbrella question

Discussion in 'Lifestyle' started by alexromo, Dec 29, 2008.

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which do you use

  1. shoot-through

    55.6%
  2. reflective

    16.7%
  3. cockpushups

    27.8%
  1. alexromo

    alexromo New Member

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    umbrella question
     
  2. Tensai81

    Tensai81 OT Supporter

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    hmm...guess I need to learn more about this subject, I would have thought reflective would have had more votes has shoot-through would steal more light from the flash :dunno: I'm curious, edumakate some of us newbies :x:
     
  3. turbodude

    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    its a tool box guys. Different tools for the job. Every person is different.

    I never use Umbrellas as my main/key, mainly because i have softboxes and better modifiers for that. I use reflective umbrellas for kickers.
     
  4. Jcolman

    Jcolman OT Supporter

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    Umbrellas, softboxes, beauty dishes, bare flash...all have their uses. Just for kicks, I shot a series of test shots with three modifiers, small softbox, umbrella (in both shoot thru and reflective mode) and my homemade beauty dish. I think I posted the results here before but in case I didn't, here they are again. Note, I didn't bother to use my large softbox and monolights. This was a test of speedlights only.

    All the lights were angled at about 45 degrees and approximately 3' away. I was interested in the light falloff pattern on the face.

    small softbox

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    softbox light pattern

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    umbrella in reflective mode

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    umbrella in shoot thru mode

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    light pattern in reflective mode. I didn't shoot a shot in the shoot-thru mode. Sue me.


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    beauty dish

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    beauty dish light pattern

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    and just for grins, here's a video light (very popular among wedding photographers lately)

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    and the same light about 15' away. Note the "wrap around" effect when you move the light farther away.

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    Just for comparison, here's a small softbox shot from 15' away.

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    followed by a shoot thru umbrella from 15' away.

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    and finally, the umbrella again from 15' away but reversed.

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  5. Tensai81

    Tensai81 OT Supporter

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    you know Jcolman, that post would have been infinitely better with one of your daughters as the subject :naughty:

    I kid, I kid...

    hey hows that "history of NC" video working out? aren't you working on that now I saw you post it a few months ago and only bring it up because my company is trying to get in with NPS on some historical videos
     
  6. Jcolman

    Jcolman OT Supporter

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    I agree. I make a horrible subject but at least the price was right. :mamoru:

    The project is underway. We've shot the first round of interviews for the first program and the writer is doing her thing. We'll start shooting B roll footage in a couple of months. Funding for the rest of the series is still up in the air.
     
  7. Tensai81

    Tensai81 OT Supporter

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    ah the government....

    I'm trying to score the Pipe Spring, AZ video and the Herbert Hoover cellphone tour right now :x: here's hoping to me still having a job next year
     
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    Jcolman OT Supporter

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    Good luck!:bigthumb:

    Here's hoping we all have jobs next year!
     
  9. alexromo

    alexromo New Member

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    thanks guys, good input

    i saw tits pics and some he used a reflective

    i saw the comparison and im gonna try reflective in the time to come
     
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    alexromo New Member

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    lot of jobs are recession proof :mamoru:
     
  11. Jcolman

    Jcolman OT Supporter

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    My wife's job is one as long as people continue to have babies.
     
  12. someonenew

    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    JC...just out of curiosity, you used the "reflective" umbrella without the black cover...don't you lose some of the light? Wouldn't the black cover with it's silver lining be more reflective than a plain white attempting to bounce back? You're the pro so I'm curious to hear your opinion on this.
     
  13. ace3

    ace3 mouthify my wang.

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    ^^ that's what i thought, too, but i don't own an ummmbrella
     
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    cockpushups, clearly
     

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