TTAC - 2008 Scion xB

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  1. TriShield

    TriShield Super Moderator® Super Moderator

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    By Paul Niedermeyer
    May 14, 2007

    Having wrested the title “world’s largest car manufacturer” from General Motors, Toyota’s already committing some of the same mistakes that brought GM down. The all-new 2008 Scion xB is a blot on Toyota’s relatively unblemished copybook. It bristles with classic GM-think: dumb it down, fatten it up and cheapen it out.

    The original xB was a brilliant design, an instant cult-classic, as iconic as the first VW Beetle. The box fresh box elicited the same emotional responses as the old bug: children, freshly-minted motorists and the young at heart all loved it. The xB was barely longer than a MINI and almost as much fun to drive, with the accommodations of a Tahoe and 30-plus mpg.

    If the last gen xB evoked images of a laquered bento box lunch, the new xB evokes a big, sloppy hamburger wrapped in greasy paper. Toyota’s drive to assimilate into the American heartland is relentless; its Texas Tundra brand BBQ sauce-stained fingerprints are all over this little porker.

    The xB has gained 650 pounds, a foot in length, and three inches in width. Obviously, there’s a price to pay at the gas pump for that corn-fed heft. EPA numbers are down almost 25 percent for the city cycle (’06 adjusted), from 28 to 22 mpg.

    That xB’s extra 12 inches are totally wasted; it all goes to making the hood longer.
    More room to mount a set of Texas steer horns? And since height is reduced, the XB actually loses usable passenger space.

    The throne-like seating position has lost four inches of leg room. Headroom has also diminished. Ditto the back seat, where my 6’4” frame once sat in limo-comfort, with a good four inches of clearance to the front back-rest. Now my knees graze the horrendously cheap-feeling fabric of the front seats.

    The xB’s front seats might as well have been lifted straight out of a 1971 Chevy Vega. Where the old thrones were nicely bolstered and contoured, with a nubby textural two-tone fabric, the new ones are molded blobs covered in a dreary monolithic black fabric. The Chevy Aveo’s seats put these to shame.

    Toyota must have scored a volume deal from GM for vintage interior molds; the door panels are now harder than a trigonometry quiz. The xB’s lamentable polymerization also includes the upper arm-rest surface where my elbow likes to rest. At least the Vega had a little cushion there.

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    The xB’s interior package suffers mightily from the reshaped dimensions, the new seating position and the new model's higher belt-line. The xB’s superb view– favored by many of its elderly patrons– has been cruelly reduced. Now one sits deep and low, Hummer style, peering out gun-slit windows. And less of them: the rear three-quarter windows have disappeared.

    The cute, perfectly positioned, oval-shaped analog instrument cluster that once perched atop the xB’s artistically shaped and textured dash has been replaced by four small oval, orange-lit displays. They're buried low and deep in the middle of the ponderous dash. The nervously-flashing digital speedometer is yet another 1980’s GM throw-back.

    The new XB has the Camry’s 2.4-liter 158hp engine. It’s a competent and smooth mill that makes the new xB a faster vehicle, but a less engaging one. The old XB’s little 1.5-liter engine had an eager willingness and mechanical presence that made every trip to the pizzeria fun, especially with the stick.

    In another GM-esque move, the Camry’s five-speed automatic didn’t make the bean-counter’s cut; the xB’s old four-speed slushbox soldiers on. Buyers opting for the manual tranny now row their boat with a shifter that protrudes from a large extension from the bottom of the dash– which enhances the perception of lost interior real estate. Equally annoying, the vague-acting clutch pedal sticks up higher than the brake pedal.

    The new XB is faster, but the fun (and challenge) is gone. The new-found heft and softer ride takes XB handling from MINI territory right to into Camry Land. And we all now how engaging and exciting THAT is.

    The xB’s electrically-assisted steering lacks the crispness and linearity of the former hydraulic unit. There were times I swear I could feel the electric motor on the other end of the steering column muttering at me under its breath– in a way that reminded me of my fifteen year old son.

    Is there anything good to say about the new, ostensibly improved Scion XB? Yes. It now comes with cruise control and more air bags.

    In short, the xB has become nothing more than a low-content five-door Camry. It’s Toyota’s el-cheapo ($16,230) version of the Chevrolet Malibu Maxx.


    In fact, the new xB doesn’t deserve the Scion moniker, which established the brand's U.S. reputation as a provider of affordable automobiles with style, efficiency, quality, innovation and fun. Maybe Toyota could get a deal on the Oldsmobile name from GM.

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  2. BLoG

    BLoG Scented Meat

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    still a total faggot shitbox
    just not as ugly
     
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    BLoG Scented Meat

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    the facelifted honda element is actually kinda sorta ok looking though :hsugh:
     
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    BLoG Scented Meat

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    what on earth would possess you to buy such a moronic vehicle? :rofl:
     
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    Mjolnir WHM6D > *

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    I read that this morning. They totally eviscerated it, and did a pretty good hatchet job on TMC too.
     
  6. pmoney

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    wow it looks even gayer
     
  7. BLoG

    BLoG Scented Meat

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    the new wheels and headlights :o
     
  8. Cobber

    Cobber Wanna touch my bunny hole?

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    I fucking knew it ... that looks like shit so I'm sure Toyota will start to sell them in canada. I beg and pleed with them to sell me an XB beofre they fuck it up and no ... no sales in canada ... now that they are ugly as fuck I'm sure they will be available
     
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    Big blindspot FTMFL!

    What's up with Toyota and bad blindspot these days? At least the previous xB had a window behind the C pillar.
     
  10. Ivy Mike

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    They look pretty practical. Good interior room, great fuel mileage, low price.
     
  11. TriShield

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    This car definitely reeks of being engineered purely with the US market in mind.
     
  12. Evil_Jeanyus

    Evil_Jeanyus That's it Ellen, cup the balls.

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    i want one of the old ones :hs:

    no scion for canada
     
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    Geeze, I wonder if others will give it such glowing reviews. :rofl:
     
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    i liked the other xB but this one looks really bad
     
  16. Scoob_13

    Scoob_13 Anything is possible, but the odds are astronomica

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    Oh look, they made it worse.


    Guess I lost that bet.
     
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    Mjolnir WHM6D > *

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    Well, they do call their site "The Truth About Cars".
     
  18. Bloody Sunday

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    well, it has everything that xb owners griped about.

    anemic motor
    no cruise control
    no arm rest
    no room in the back for stuff

    we're a hard crowd to please.

    i'm still in love with my 2004 xB. i just wish i got the 5sp
     
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    is this Honda's answer to the xB? :rofl:

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    who the fuck buys those shitboxes :ugh:
     
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  23. Bloody Sunday

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    don't know.

    but out of an 11.9 Gallon tank, i only get about 290 mi. at the MOST if i drive all freeway.

    if it's just to and from work, i could only push 270 mi and that's with the gas gauge waaaay past E :hsd:
     
  24. TripleFive

    TripleFive Someone Sell Me A Porsche! OT Supporter

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    Nissan would be smart to sweep in with the Cube and shit all over this new xB.
     

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