Tribulus stacked with ZMA?

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  1. 2000GT

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    I have taken zma before bed for a long time now. I get great sleep.

    Recently was offered a good deal on a tribulus zma stack. I know tribulus helps the body produce as much natural test as possible, and in young men, this usually is unecessary.

    Has anyone used?
     
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    ZMA also gives me wicked dreams but for us younguns I think trib is useless
     
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    Is 25 that young?
     
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    I'd say at 25 you still probably have youthful test levels.
     
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    Trib is useless period
     
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    OBJECTIVE: The aim of the current study is to investigate the influence of Tribulus terrestris extract on androgen metabolism in young males. DESIGN AND METHODS: Twenty-one healthy young 20-36 years old men with body weight ranging from 60 to 125 kg were randomly separated into three groups-two experimental (each n=7) and a control (placebo) one (n=7). The experimental groups were named TT1 and TT2 and the subjects were assigned to consume 20 and 10 mg/kg body weight per day of Tribulus terrestris extract, respectively, separated into three daily intakes for 4 weeks. Testosterone, androstenedione and luteinizing hormone levels in the serum were measured 24 h before supplementation (clear probe), and at 24, 72, 240, 408 and 576 h from the beginning of the supplementation. RESULTS: There was no significant difference between Tribulus terrestris supplemented groups and controls in the serum testosterone (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 15.75+/-1.75 nmol/l); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 16.32+/-1.57 nmol/l); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 17.74+/-1.09 nmol/l) (p>0.05)), androstenedione (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 1.927+/-0.126 ng/ml); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 2.026+/-0.256 ng/ml); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 1.952+/-0.236 ng/ml) (p>0.05)) or luteinizing hormone (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 4.662+/-0.274U/l); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 4.103+/-0.869U/l); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 4.170+/-0.406U/l) (p>0.05)) levels. All results were within the normal range. The findings in the current study anticipate that Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins possess neither direct nor indirect androgen-increasing properties. The study will be extended in the clarifying the probable mode of action of Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins.
     
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    Tribulus isn't worthless rather much of the tribulus that is sold is. I would recommend looking at other natural test boosting products such as Powerfull, Activate, Alpha Drive.

    I think ZMA is a waste of money but if its working for you then whatever. Lastly, if you were wondering, test levels start declining in our early 20s.
     
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    what are the active ingredients in powerfull, activate and alpha drive.
     
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    powerfull was cool... I had red eyes and morning wood every day
     
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    yeah, I stacked it with Cissus
     
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    oh and holy shit, it was the best sleep ever when i was taking that shit
     
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    That could probably do me good as I have torn my flexor tendons recently and fractured my scaphoid.
     
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    Eurycoma Longifolia is supposedly better than tribulus.
     
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    Actually tried that years ago ...

    The chrysin in that is at least useless as an estrogen blocker. Which is what its added in there for...

     
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    Interesting... appreciate the research you provided as well.

    Do you currently use any natural booster? Cissus?
     
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    Just ordered cissus last Friday moreso though for my joints... waiting...waiting.. hoping customs won't stop the order too.:hs:

    I think the 6oxo is good... tried that this summer when I was cutting. Just pretty expensive.... might still buy the 180cap bottle though sometime.
     
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    thought about trying 6-oxo?
     
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    I know next to nothing about supplements to be honest. I have to do some research as to what it is.

    My main issues currently are torn tendons and a bone fracture in my scaphoid, as well as some general issues I believe to stem from stress like low appetite, bad sleep pattern, strength decrease which can all be helped by some natural test boosters I believe.
     
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