Training to failure?

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  1. Ribbie

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    I haven't posted much in f+n but I lurk pretty regularly in here. I just wanted to hear some opinions on training to failure? I've always assumed that pushing more weight > more sets but I figure it's time to ask some people who are in the know.

    In the past I've been a 3x10 guy who wanted to always get that tenth one out.The last month I've just been upping the weight and pushing whatever I can. Be it 8, 6, hell even 3 and I've noticed a big strength gain in the past month.

    So should I keep up with this or would I benefit more by just sticking to the weights I'm at now and trying to get more out?
     
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    from what i've read/heard on here training to failure has a place but isnt something that should be used all the time. for the most part you want to be completing say the 10th rep if you would fail on 11. stop at the completion of the 10th rep.
     
  3. ulter

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    I'd really have to see more of your workout. How often do you change it all?
    You should continue what you're doing but since you're not using steroids you're not going to notice a difference for a couple months. Just stay with it
     
  4. Ribbie

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    that's what I'm curious about. If it's going to hurt me more than help me from here on out


    I don't really have a static program, I try to change it up every week generally. Here's kind of what I follow.




    Back Day

    20 minutes eliptical warm up
    5 minute stretch

    3x10 seated row
    3x10 bent over row
    3x10 reverse pec deck
    3x10 front pull down

    10 minute eliptical cool down
    good stretch

    Leg day

    20 minutes eliptical warm up
    10 minute stretch

    3x10 lunges
    3x10 leg press
    3x10 calf press
    3x10 reverse calf press

    20 minutes on the bike
    best stretch of the week


    Arm Day

    20 minutes eliptical warm up
    5 minute stretch

    3x10 hammer curl
    3x10 concentration curl
    3x10 preacher curl

    3x10 bent over tricep extensions w/rope
    3x10 cable push downs w/rope
    3x10 dips
    3x10 skull crushers


    10 minutes bike cool down
    stretch


    Shoulders

    20 minutes eliptical warm up
    5 minute stretch

    3x10 military press
    3x10 lateral raise
    3x10 upright row
    3x12 shrugs

    10 minute eliptical cool down
    good stretch



    Chest Day

    20 minutes eliptical warm up
    5 minute stretch

    3x10 flat bench
    3x10 incline bench
    3x10 decline bench
    3x10 cable crosses\3x10 flys

    10 minute eliptical cool down
    good stretch


    I'm trying to lose weight and gain muscle and so far it's been pretty successful. I'm getting slimmer and stronger, but unfortunately I don't have access to a good caliper. I'm not really concerned with weight as a number I'm just more focused on seeing small increases in the gym for every day that I'm in there.

    It's not going to just happen in a day. Oh, and I've been training like this since mid may.
     
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    CT's view from http://www.t-nation.com/article/bodybuilding/the_thib_system_8212_fatigue_and_best_exercises

     
  6. JeremyD

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    Just fucking push yourself. You think ronnie coleman does some integral calculus before a set of squats to figure out how many reps of 75% of his maximum he can do before failure? No, he mans the fuck up and moves some heavy ass weight. Concentric failure, forced reps, negatives, static holds, rest-pause, triple drop sets......these are the things from which grown ass men are made. Push yourself 110% of the time. If your strength starts to decline after a while, eat more, or back off for a week, then hit it hard again.
     
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    Crush Epidural hematoma up in this bitch

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    there is some benefit to leaving some in the tank of heavy exercises
     
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    Agree with this:

    And usually just on the last set of the exercise that I'll take it to failure or beyond. Also depends on the volume and frequency.
     
  10. Ribbie

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    thanks for the advice :wavey:
     
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    you cant overtrain, you can only undereat.
     
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    Every other week I do every set 4x12 where it's heavy enough that I will fail on anything past 12.

    The weeks in between are 3x6 at a heavier weight and then the last one 1x25 at a little more than half.

    I've been getting pretty good results too.
     
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