Toyota Mulls Recalling Tundra For Engine Failure

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  1. TriShield

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    Engine trouble on new Texas-made pickup could hurt quality reputation

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    Toyota Motor Corp. faces a costly setback in the biggest U.S. vehicle launch in its history after owners of its new Tundra pickup reported engine failures.

    The Japanese automaker may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines, a company spokesman said Wednesday.

    The trouble with the Tundra's 5.7-liter engines, the most powerful engine available on the new pickup, is the latest in a series of recalls and problems that have dented Toyota's reputation.

    The automaker set the industry standards for vehicle quality, but now seems to be straining to maintain top quality as it expands overseas, builds factories and hires thousands of new workers
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    "It's really tough," said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. "Engine failure kills a car's ability to run and it's not a simple thing to fix."

    Such a problem is also likely to affect residual values, he said.

    Industry experts say Toyota is extremely vulnerable to negative publicity because of its prominence in the industry.

    In the first quarter of 2007, Toyota overtook General Motors Corp. to become the world's leading automaker in terms of sales.

    With the launch of the Tundra earlier this year, Toyota aims to double its share of the lucrative full-size pickup market, one of the few segments still dominated by the U.S. automakers.

    Toyota officials characterize the Tundra launch as the most important introduction in the company's history in the United States.

    The rollout has suffered delays and disappointments. For instance, the Tundra earned lower frontal crash scores than domestic rivals such as the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram.

    But the engine problem is more damaging and could slow the vehicle's brisk sales momentum.

    Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.

    Still, Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines, although no injuries have been reported.

    Toyota is now studying how many of the 30,000 5.7-liter engines it built are affected.

    Toyota builds the Tundra pickup at assembly plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio, Texas, and makes the engines in Alabama.

    The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 new Tundras this year, compared with 124,508 previous-generation Tundras in 2006.

    But U.S. automakers are holding their own in the pickup market, and GM has been successful with its new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks.

    In contrast to their performance in the car market, where they have been pushed back by Japanese nameplates, American manufacturers account for more than 90 percent of full-size pickup sales, which totaled 2.2 million units in 2006.

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    Oh snap
     
  2. heebdawg16

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    heard about this shit, Toyota is f'ed
     
  3. victimizati0n

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    dont let light speed see this
     
  4. crontab

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    oh shit
     
  5. TriShield

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    The camshafts are snapping - 20 so far. Up to 30,000 have been built up to now.
     
  6. Yeahdoug

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    Owned by camshaft supplier. They'll be in for a big time lawsuit. I know my company is still paying GM for a lawsuit against us on some valve springs field failures.
     
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    :eek4: 30,000 engines x $10k per engine incl labor=$300,000,000
     
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    And people dog US car companies for quality issues.
     
  9. Serulean

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    aww shit
     
  10. Yeahdoug

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    Toyotas cost per engine is nowhere near 10k. Labors maybe a grand.
     
  11. nateg

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    Cost $8k to replace my 4 banger from mazda under warranty. :dunno: I thought I was being cheap with my guesstimate.
     
  12. Josepi

    Josepi HA HA, I CHANGED MY AV

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    2k for the motor and 6k in "labor"
     
  13. nateg

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    Nah man, the motor was about $5k. Labor was $3k. :mamoru:


    Took them a few weeks to replace though. :hsugh:
     
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    What it cost you to have a motor replaced is far higher than what it will cost Toyota to replace 30k motors.
     
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    American workers :| move plants back overseas.
     
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    a recall is cheaper than a warranty cover? I thought it was the same?
     
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    We dethroned our build quality reputation as soon as honda and toyota hit the u.s. market.
     
  19. Mjolnir

    Mjolnir WHM6D > *

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    Well, whaddya know.

    It looks like Toyota built an engineering reputation when, in fact, it was all based on quality control and work-force participation.

    Any chance some pundit will admit that GM cars would be a hell of a lot better if they ditched the UAW?
     
  20. Tard Carnival

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    Ah, I love it. They're running into the same problems the major domestic makers are too.
     
  21. Mjolnir

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    Including the Honda's and Nissan built in the Southeast?

    Maybe it's not the workers- maybe it's a corporate issue.
     
  22. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Bad quality Toyota > a good quality GM :mamoru:
     
  23. contactone

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    It's only cams from one supplier though isn't it? So it might not ba all 30,000 engines.

    I would love to see a pic of these snapped shafts and the engines they cam from.
     
  24. victimizati0n

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    but the sad thing is that they will still be seen as much better than the domestics
     
  25. victimizati0n

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    i have never had a gm car snap a fucking camshaft, or have a fucking engine failure

    wrong.
     

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