TOPIC 16: Bringing up weaker bodyparts v. glenn pendlay

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  1. grimstone

    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    read it if you want
     
  2. ACLdestroyer

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    Kinda depressing. Educational though.
     
  3. SuperChode

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    Where has it ever been shown that you can't make your body symmetrical due to shitty genetics? So sick of these genetics cop outs.
     
  4. grimstone

    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    less of a cop out more reality. still doesnt mean you cant build a body better than just about anyone around you
     
  5. calteg

    calteg Those who would sacrifice personal liberty for sec OT Supporter

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    bout damn time that someone mentioned that genetics play a bigger role than your diet/routine/supplements ever will.
     
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    I dont think hes talking symmetry.
     
  7. SuperChode

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    How is it reality. There have never been any studies that would indicate his point.

    Great news for fat people everywhere!

    Uh, the first sentence is about bringing up lagging body parts. What else is he talking about? I agree with genetics being the most important factor when you get to a professional level, but I think that the genetics factor mostly plays into how quickly they can recover from training. The quicker you recover and healthier you are the more you can train and the more you can grow.

    Seriously, this article is a joke. The guy is complaining about not having his chest being defined? Hmm, maybe he needs to focus more on chest and diet more. From what he's saying it's like you can just go in and do leg extensions and bicep curls and have the same body as if you did bench and squats.

    Edit: To think about this idea in terms of evolution makes it even more preposterous. To think that your body is so poorly designed that one person could have entirely different proportions in bone mass from another without having serious health issues is absurd.
     
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    Pendlay is one of the best strength coaches in the US, can raw dunk OL squat 750+, can strict military press 400+ standing, and has coached some of the finest athletes in our country.

    I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about and he's right.

    He's simply saying the reality is that for the majority of the population, no matter what you do, certain bodyparts will lag. He's saying he's seen people change their entire routine to try to bring up a single bodypart and thus other things suffer while that bodypart makes no progress. He's saying to keep your mind on the overall picture not a single bodypart.
     
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    Symmetry = muscle size/shape on the left of your body vs. the right side.

    When he talks about lagging muscle groups he is refering to "I am mostly happy with my physique but I would really love to make my calves huge (for example)."

    In this example, the base of what he is saying is that if calves (ex) are your weak spot, then they will likely always be a weak spot for you. No amount of training can give you the calves of a genetically gifted BBer.

    Feel free to swap out calves in this example for Bi-Peaks, or Pec Definiton, Ab-alignment, etc.
     
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    For almost all fat people, "fatness" isn't genetic.
     
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    Just because he's a strength coach doesn't make him right. If you want to just appeal to authority, didn't Arnold always talk about focusing on his weakest body parts rather than the strongest? The point is there is no evidence anywhere saying that your genetics are going to limit the size of one particular muscle, and it just sounds ridiculous to me.
     
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    kilian You've got quite a treasure there in that Horadric OT Supporter

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    :ugh:
     
  13. ices

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    No.
     
  14. SuperChode

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    Don't fucking :ugh: me, link me to some evidence.
     
  15. Frank Dux

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    Arnold just said fuck it and got calf implants :rofl:
     
  16. Buzz Killington

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    Arnold Schwarzenegger is another famous bodybuilder that has been accused of having them, though almost everyone knows the legend of how Arnold only started truly training his calves correctly after visiting Reg Park in South Africa. Arnold returned to Venice Beach and cut all of his workout sweats into knickers so that he was constantly reminded of his poor calves. If Arnold did have implants put in, they were certainly superior in appearance to nearly all the calf implants we see today.
    :cool:

    Arnold, as usual > *
     
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    816 up in this bitch
    you probably have to be several years into the game for allthatshit.txt to apply. i use to have no triceps but thats because i trained like a retard for months, theyre startin to pop out now with better training. :x:
     
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