pierced at an 8gauge and stretched immediately to a 6. sorry for the shitty quality my camera phone is shit. I will be stretching hopefully to 5/8 down the line. STORY: i was getting bored of my septum, i usually wore it up in my nose and it was always a pain to have when my nose would get stuffed. my friend needed a metal retainer for her septum and we were at her friends shop in San Diego so i said what the hell gave her friend my retainer had it autoclaved along with some 6 gauge tunnels for my ears. Im really glad i went straight to 6 and avoided all that small shit but the needle i didnt see till after it was all over, and i couldnt believe the fucking size of it.. ill post pics later.